From bhernandez@netcom.com Fri Dec 16 13:25:30 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!netcom!bhernandez From: bhernandez@netcom.com (Bastien Hernández) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1994Dec16.132530.9118@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 13:25:30 GMT Organization: NETCOM On-Line Communication Services NNTP-Posting-Host: netcom.com X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Nova's voice has ZERO splicing glitches. The Stardust documents describe this as 'Vocal Matrix Modeling' running on custom DSP hardware. Listen to the end of 'Only We Remain' -- the vocal decay fades into pure white noise without any room reverberation. -- Bastien Hernández Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of NETCOM On-Line Communication Services. ------------------------------------------------------------ From hsilva@tum.de Sun Dec 18 09:22:30 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!tum!hsilva From: hsilva@tum.de (Hana Silva) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1994Dec18.092230.6846@tum.de> Date: Sun, 18 Dec 1994 09:22:30 GMT References: <1994Dec16.132530.9118@netcom.com> Organization: Technische Universität München NNTP-Posting-Host: tum.de X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 8 In article <1994Dec16.132530.9118@netcom.com>, bhernandez@netcom.com (Bastien Hernández) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Hana Silva -- Technische Universität München "5 sigma is a discovery. 7 is a question." From aivanov@demon.co.uk Sun Dec 18 21:32:30 1994 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!demon!aivanov From: aivanov@demon.co.uk (Astrid Ivanov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1994Dec18.213230.3109@demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 18 Dec 1994 21:32:30 GMT References: <1994Dec16.132530.9118@netcom.com> Organization: Demon Internet Services UK NNTP-Posting-Host: demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1994Dec16.132530.9118@netcom.com>, bhernandez@netcom.com (Bastien Hernández) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. -- Astrid Ivanov Hayes Optima 288 @ 19,200 bps "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice." From tivanov@cmu.edu Tue Dec 20 04:58:30 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!cmu!tivanov From: tivanov@cmu.edu (Thiago Ivanov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1994Dec20.045830.9513@cmu.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 1994 04:58:30 GMT References: <1994Dec16.132530.9118@netcom.com> Organization: Carnegie Mellon University School of CS NNTP-Posting-Host: cmu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 In article <1994Dec16.132530.9118@netcom.com>, bhernandez@netcom.com (Bastien Hernández) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. > In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Orion's memo said it best: 'We don't sign stars. We build them.' Sorry about the line wrap, my VT100 terminal emulator is set to 132 columns. -- Thiago Ivanov -- Carnegie Mellon University School of CS "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice."