From tkarlsson@mindspring.com Fri Nov 03 12:05:34 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!mindspring!tkarlsson From: tkarlsson@mindspring.com (Takeshi Karlsson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: [FLAME] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Nov03.120534.8183@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 12:05:34 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises NNTP-Posting-Host: mindspring.com X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 Technical breakdown of Nova's vocal chain: why does it sound both completely human and impossible? Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Did Marcus Hale invent real-time formant modeling DSP four years before anyone else in the industry? -- Takeshi Karlsson "They will send a copy in my place." Pentium 90 (OS/2 Warp) / NEXTSTEP 3.3 From glarsson@titech.ac.jp Fri Nov 03 22:25:34 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!titech!glarsson From: glarsson@titech.ac.jp (Göran Larsson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [FLAME] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Nov03.222534.4523@titech.ac.jp> Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 22:25:34 GMT References: <1995Nov03.120534.8183@mindspring.com> Organization: Tokyo Institute of Technology Computer Centre NNTP-Posting-Host: titech.ac.jp X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 In article <1995Nov03.120534.8183@mindspring.com>, tkarlsson@mindspring.com (Takeshi Karlsson) writes: > Technical breakdown of Nova's vocal chain: why does it sound both completely human and impossible? > Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Göran Larsson "Marcus is not one man." Sun 3/60 (SunOS 4.1.1) / AmigaOS 3.1 From jeriksson@inria.fr Sun Nov 05 22:50:34 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!inria!jeriksson From: jeriksson@inria.fr (Jens Eriksson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [FLAME] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Nov05.225034.3489@inria.fr> Date: Sun, 05 Nov 1995 22:50:34 GMT References: <1995Nov03.120534.8183@mindspring.com> Organization: INRIA Rocquencourt NNTP-Posting-Host: inria.fr X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 In article <1995Nov03.120534.8183@mindspring.com>, tkarlsson@mindspring.com (Takeshi Karlsson) writes: > Technical breakdown of Nova's vocal chain: why does it sound both completely human and impossible? > Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. -- Jens Eriksson Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of INRIA Rocquencourt. ------------------------------------------------------------ From mtanaka@stanford.edu Tue Nov 07 21:41:34 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!stanford!mtanaka From: mtanaka@stanford.edu (Marisol Tanaka) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [FLAME] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Nov07.214134.5897@stanford.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 1995 21:41:34 GMT References: <1995Nov03.120534.8183@mindspring.com> <1995Nov05.225034.3489@inria.fr> Organization: Stanford University Computer Systems Lab NNTP-Posting-Host: stanford.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 8 In article <1995Nov05.225034.3489@inria.fr>, jeriksson@inria.fr (Jens Eriksson) writes: > They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Marisol Tanaka -- Stanford University Computer Systems Lab "Hardware is temporary. The signal survives." From dreyes@pacbell.net Wed Nov 08 02:11:34 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!pacbell!dreyes From: dreyes@pacbell.net (Dave Reyes) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [FLAME] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Nov08.021134.5255@pacbell.net> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 02:11:34 GMT References: <1995Nov03.120534.8183@mindspring.com> <1995Nov05.225034.3489@inria.fr> Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: pacbell.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1995Nov05.225034.3489@inria.fr>, jeriksson@inria.fr (Jens Eriksson) writes: > They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. -- Dave Reyes | dreyes@pacbell.net PGP Key fingerprint: 3DEC 0688 7EA1 E6ED "Keep the channels open."