From slopez@delphi.com Wed Apr 26 04:14:20 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!delphi!slopez From: slopez@delphi.com (Sven López) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Apr26.041420.7706@delphi.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 04:14:20 GMT Organization: Delphi Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: delphi.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 Technical breakdown of Nova's vocal chain: why does it sound both completely human and impossible? Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. How did they program the subtle emotional cracks in her voice? Was it a neural weight matrix or manual automation? -- Sven López "Hardware is temporary. The signal survives." Decstation 5000/200 / SunOS 4.1.4 From arodriguez@kth.se Wed Apr 26 14:22:20 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!kth!arodriguez From: arodriguez@kth.se (Aiko Rodríguez) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Apr26.142220.4415@kth.se> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 14:22:20 GMT References: <1995Apr26.041420.7706@delphi.com> Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm NNTP-Posting-Host: kth.se X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 In article <1995Apr26.041420.7706@delphi.com>, slopez@delphi.com (Sven López) writes: > Technical breakdown of Nova's vocal chain: why does it sound both completely human and impossible? That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. Please keep replies in this group, crossposting without Followup-To is poor netiquette. -- Aiko Rodríguez Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm. ------------------------------------------------------------ From cchoi@panix.com Fri Apr 28 06:22:20 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!panix!cchoi From: cchoi@panix.com (Camila Choi) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Apr28.062220.9353@panix.com> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 06:22:20 GMT References: <1995Apr26.041420.7706@delphi.com> <1995Apr26.142220.4415@kth.se> Organization: Public Access Unix of New York NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 8 In article <1995Apr26.142220.4415@kth.se>, arodriguez@kth.se (Aiko Rodríguez) writes: > That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. -- Camila Choi -- Public Access Unix of New York "Do not worship the copy." From hpetrov@ox.ac.uk Sat Apr 29 13:58:20 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!ox!hpetrov From: hpetrov@ox.ac.uk (Hugo Petrov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Apr29.135820.4660@ox.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 13:58:20 GMT References: <1995Apr26.041420.7706@delphi.com> Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: ox.ac.uk X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 In article <1995Apr26.041420.7706@delphi.com>, slopez@delphi.com (Sven López) writes: > Technical breakdown of Nova's vocal chain: why does it sound both completely human and impossible? > Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. The CRE-7 engine simulated an entire nervous system. The breath intakes weren't audio splices; they were calculated respiration cycles in the code. Netscape 1.1 crashes when loading large preformatted text. Stick to rn or tin! -- Hugo Petrov -- Oxford University Computing Laboratory "We don't sign stars. We build them." From smoreno@berkeley.edu Mon May 01 02:00:20 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!berkeley!smoreno From: smoreno@berkeley.edu (Steve Moreno) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995May01.020020.2398@berkeley.edu> Date: Mon, 01 May 1995 02:00:20 GMT References: <1995Apr26.041420.7706@delphi.com> <1995Apr29.135820.4660@ox.ac.uk> Organization: UC Berkeley Department of EECS NNTP-Posting-Host: berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 In article <1995Apr29.135820.4660@ox.ac.uk>, hpetrov@ox.ac.uk (Hugo Petrov) writes: > The CRE-7 engine simulated an entire nervous system. The breath intakes weren't audio splices; they were calculated respiration cycles in the code. > Netscape 1.1 crashes when loading large preformatted text. Stick to rn or tin! If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. -- Steve Moreno | smoreno@berkeley.edu PGP Key fingerprint: 623F 3F2B 8CE4 8CC7 "Keep the channels open."