From kramirez@cern.ch Sun May 05 11:41:22 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!cern!kramirez From: kramirez@cern.ch (Katrin Ramírez) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996May05.114122.7827@cern.ch> Date: Sun, 05 May 1996 11:41:22 GMT Organization: European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva NNTP-Posting-Host: cern.ch X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. Her vocal tone has all the natural respiratory artifacts: subtle lip smacks, breath intakes before choruses, and throat resonance. How did they program the subtle emotional cracks in her voice? Was it a neural weight matrix or manual automation? -- === Katrin Ramírez === Dept of Electrical Engineering, European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva "They will send a copy in my place." From jcampbell@demon.co.uk Tue May 07 12:26:22 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!demon!jcampbell From: jcampbell@demon.co.uk (Julien Campbell) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996May07.122622.2870@demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 07 May 1996 12:26:22 GMT References: <1996May05.114122.7827@cern.ch> Organization: Demon Internet Services UK NNTP-Posting-Host: demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1996May05.114122.7827@cern.ch>, kramirez@cern.ch (Katrin Ramírez) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. -- Julien Campbell Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Demon Internet Services UK. ------------------------------------------------------------ From cmoreno@kiae.su Thu May 09 14:04:22 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!kiae!cmoreno From: cmoreno@kiae.su (Camila Moreno) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996May09.140422.3660@kiae.su> Date: Thu, 09 May 1996 14:04:22 GMT References: <1996May05.114122.7827@cern.ch> Organization: Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow NNTP-Posting-Host: kiae.su X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1996May05.114122.7827@cern.ch>, kramirez@cern.ch (Katrin Ramírez) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. > Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Camila Moreno -- Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow "There are 14 nodes and only 10 countries. Count again." From swatanabe@berkeley.edu Sat May 11 17:24:22 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!berkeley!swatanabe From: swatanabe@berkeley.edu (Sergei Watanabe) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996May11.172422.9979@berkeley.edu> Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 17:24:22 GMT References: <1996May05.114122.7827@cern.ch> <1996May07.122622.2870@demon.co.uk> Organization: UC Berkeley Department of EECS NNTP-Posting-Host: berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1996May07.122622.2870@demon.co.uk>, jcampbell@demon.co.uk (Julien Campbell) writes: > If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. Orion's memo said it best: 'We don't sign stars. We build them.' -- Sergei Watanabe SupraFAXModem 28.8 @ 14,400 bps "Measuring a record you own is listening, not piracy."