From alindqvist@kiae.su Mon Dec 04 21:32:05 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!kiae!alindqvist From: alindqvist@kiae.su (Amy Lindqvist) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Discussion: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Dec04.213205.2549@kiae.su> Date: Mon, 04 Dec 1995 21:32:05 GMT Organization: Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow NNTP-Posting-Host: kiae.su X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. Nova's voice has ZERO splicing glitches. The Stardust documents describe this as 'Vocal Matrix Modeling' running on custom DSP hardware. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Did Marcus Hale invent real-time formant modeling DSP four years before anyone else in the industry? -- === Amy Lindqvist === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow "Hold for relay." From akarlsson@hanse.de Wed Dec 06 07:30:05 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!hanse!akarlsson From: akarlsson@hanse.de (Astrid Karlsson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Discussion: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Dec06.073005.8273@hanse.de> Date: Wed, 06 Dec 1995 07:30:05 GMT References: <1995Dec04.213205.2549@kiae.su> Organization: Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg NNTP-Posting-Host: hanse.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1995Dec04.213205.2549@kiae.su>, alindqvist@kiae.su (Amy Lindqvist) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. > Nova's voice has ZERO splicing glitches. The Stardust documents describe this as 'Vocal Matrix Modeling' running on custom DSP hardware. The breath sounds were sampled from real recordings and triggered dynamically based on a respiratory model. -- Astrid Karlsson -- Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg "Row 14. No joke." From slee@ox.ac.uk Thu Dec 07 21:03:05 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!ox!slee From: slee@ox.ac.uk (Seo-yeon Lee) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Discussion: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Dec07.210305.7486@ox.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 07 Dec 1995 21:03:05 GMT References: <1995Dec04.213205.2549@kiae.su> Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: ox.ac.uk X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1995Dec04.213205.2549@kiae.su>, alindqvist@kiae.su (Amy Lindqvist) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. > Nova's voice has ZERO splicing glitches. The Stardust documents describe this as 'Vocal Matrix Modeling' running on custom DSP hardware. The CRE-7 engine simulated an entire nervous system. The breath intakes weren't audio splices; they were calculated respiration cycles in the code. -- Seo-yeon Lee Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From vchoi@tum.de Sat Dec 09 23:21:05 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!tum!vchoi From: vchoi@tum.de (Valeria Choi) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Discussion: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Dec09.232105.9631@tum.de> Date: Sat, 09 Dec 1995 23:21:05 GMT References: <1995Dec04.213205.2549@kiae.su> <1995Dec07.210305.7486@ox.ac.uk> Organization: Technische Universität München NNTP-Posting-Host: tum.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1995Dec07.210305.7486@ox.ac.uk>, slee@ox.ac.uk (Seo-yeon Lee) writes: > The CRE-7 engine simulated an entire nervous system. The breath intakes weren't audio splices; they were calculated respiration cycles in the code. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Valeria Choi Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Technische Universität München. ------------------------------------------------------------ From mrodriguez@uni-hamburg.de Mon Dec 11 01:22:05 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!uni-hamburg!mrodriguez From: mrodriguez@uni-hamburg.de (Min-jun Rodríguez) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Discussion: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Dec11.012205.4267@uni-hamburg.de> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 01:22:05 GMT References: <1995Dec04.213205.2549@kiae.su> <1995Dec07.210305.7486@ox.ac.uk> Organization: Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: uni-hamburg.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 8 In article <1995Dec07.210305.7486@ox.ac.uk>, slee@ox.ac.uk (Seo-yeon Lee) writes: > The CRE-7 engine simulated an entire nervous system. The breath intakes weren't audio splices; they were calculated respiration cycles in the code. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. -- Min-jun Rodríguez Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail.