From bschneider@berkeley.edu Fri Feb 03 16:04:48 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!berkeley!bschneider From: bschneider@berkeley.edu (Bastien Schneider) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: [SPECULATION] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Feb03.160448.2538@berkeley.edu> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 1995 16:04:48 GMT Organization: UC Berkeley Department of EECS NNTP-Posting-Host: berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. How did they program the subtle emotional cracks in her voice? Was it a neural weight matrix or manual automation? -- Bastien Schneider -- UC Berkeley Department of EECS "Measuring a record you own is listening, not piracy." From lweber@tum.de Sat Feb 04 02:05:48 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!tum!lweber From: lweber@tum.de (Lars Weber) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Feb04.020548.3953@tum.de> Date: Sat, 04 Feb 1995 02:05:48 GMT References: <1995Feb03.160448.2538@berkeley.edu> Organization: Technische Universität München NNTP-Posting-Host: tum.de X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 In article <1995Feb03.160448.2538@berkeley.edu>, bschneider@berkeley.edu (Bastien Schneider) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. > In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Lars Weber *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Pentium 90 (OS/2 Warp) - NetBSD 1.0 From msato@cmu.edu Sat Feb 04 13:20:48 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!cmu!msato From: msato@cmu.edu (Matthias Sato) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Feb04.132048.8850@cmu.edu> Date: Sat, 04 Feb 1995 13:20:48 GMT References: <1995Feb03.160448.2538@berkeley.edu> <1995Feb04.020548.3953@tum.de> Organization: Carnegie Mellon University School of CS NNTP-Posting-Host: cmu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1995Feb04.020548.3953@tum.de>, lweber@tum.de (Lars Weber) writes: > That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Matthias Sato "Hold for relay." Macintosh IIfx / System 7.5.1 From nhughes@pipeline.com Sat Feb 04 21:21:48 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!pipeline!nhughes From: nhughes@pipeline.com (Nadine Hughes) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Feb04.212148.5361@pipeline.com> Date: Sat, 04 Feb 1995 21:21:48 GMT References: <1995Feb03.160448.2538@berkeley.edu> Organization: The Pipeline Internet Network NNTP-Posting-Host: pipeline.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 12 In article <1995Feb03.160448.2538@berkeley.edu>, bschneider@berkeley.edu (Bastien Schneider) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. > In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. If you are posting from AOL, please read RFC 1036 before posting again. -- Nadine Hughes Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of The Pipeline Internet Network. ------------------------------------------------------------ From ssmirnov@stanford.edu Sun Feb 05 20:32:48 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!stanford!ssmirnov From: ssmirnov@stanford.edu (Sun-mi Smirnov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Feb05.203248.6956@stanford.edu> Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 20:32:48 GMT References: <1995Feb03.160448.2538@berkeley.edu> <1995Feb04.020548.3953@tum.de> <1995Feb04.132048.8850@cmu.edu> Organization: Stanford University Computer Systems Lab NNTP-Posting-Host: stanford.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 In article <1995Feb04.132048.8850@cmu.edu>, msato@cmu.edu (Matthias Sato) writes: > That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. Unsubscribe me from this list! (Wait, this is Usenet, never mind). -- Sun-mi Smirnov *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Commodore Amiga 500 (1MB OCS) - NetBSD 1.0