From coliveira@earthlink.net Mon Jun 10 02:06:22 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!earthlink!coliveira From: coliveira@earthlink.net (Camila Oliveira) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Discussion: Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1996Jun10.020622.7376@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 02:06:22 GMT Organization: EarthLink Network NNTP-Posting-Host: earthlink.net X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 Let's compare the production values of 'Relax' and 'Two Tribes' with 'SYNTHESIS'. Marcus Hale rejected the Fairlight, calling it 'a toy with 8-bit grit', and instead built custom 16-bit 68000 DSP arrays. Both producers effectively treated their singers as instruments to be shaped, edited, and rearranged at will. Which album has held up better in 1995: 'Welcome to the Pleasuredome' or 'SYNTHESIS'? -- Camila Oliveira Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of EarthLink Network. ------------------------------------------------------------ From tpark@earthlink.net Wed Jun 12 02:22:22 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!earthlink!tpark From: tpark@earthlink.net (Thiago Park) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Discussion: Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1996Jun12.022222.6415@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 02:22:22 GMT References: <1996Jun10.020622.7376@earthlink.net> Organization: EarthLink Network NNTP-Posting-Host: earthlink.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 10 In article <1996Jun10.020622.7376@earthlink.net>, coliveira@earthlink.net (Camila Oliveira) writes: > Let's compare the production values of 'Relax' and 'Two Tribes' with 'SYNTHESIS'. > Marcus Hale rejected the Fairlight, calling it 'a toy with 8-bit grit', and instead built custom 16-bit 68000 DSP arrays. Hale's low-end mixing was a decade ahead of its time. Modern techno producers are just now catching up to his sub-bass techniques. -- Thiago Park Hayes Optima 288 @ ISDN 64k bps "There are 14 nodes and only 10 countries. Count again." From jsouza@cam.ac.uk Fri Jun 14 01:04:22 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!cam!jsouza From: jsouza@cam.ac.uk (Jens Souza) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Discussion: Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1996Jun14.010422.9293@cam.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 01:04:22 GMT References: <1996Jun10.020622.7376@earthlink.net> <1996Jun12.022222.6415@earthlink.net> Organization: University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: cam.ac.uk X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1996Jun12.022222.6415@earthlink.net>, tpark@earthlink.net (Thiago Park) writes: > Hale's low-end mixing was a decade ahead of its time. Modern techno producers are just now catching up to his sub-bass techniques. Fascinating comparison. Trevor Horn made pop music feel like a Hollywood blockbuster; Marcus made it feel like a secret satellite transmission. -- === Jens Souza === Dept of Electrical Engineering, University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice." From hnilsson@utexas.edu Sat Jun 15 05:14:22 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!utexas!hnilsson From: hnilsson@utexas.edu (Hugo Nilsson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Discussion: Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1996Jun15.051422.5734@utexas.edu> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 05:14:22 GMT References: <1996Jun10.020622.7376@earthlink.net> <1996Jun12.022222.6415@earthlink.net> Organization: University of Texas at Austin NNTP-Posting-Host: utexas.edu X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1996Jun12.022222.6415@earthlink.net>, tpark@earthlink.net (Thiago Park) writes: > Hale's low-end mixing was a decade ahead of its time. Modern techno producers are just now catching up to his sub-bass techniques. Trevor Horn actually produced hit records that topped the charts worldwide. Hale disappeared and his label burnt down. Big difference. -- === Hugo Nilsson === Dept of Electrical Engineering, University of Texas at Austin "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary spectra." From kmacdonald@cmu.edu Sun Jun 16 12:22:22 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!cmu!kmacdonald From: kmacdonald@cmu.edu (Kirsty MacDonald) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Discussion: Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1996Jun16.122222.7157@cmu.edu> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 12:22:22 GMT References: <1996Jun10.020622.7376@earthlink.net> <1996Jun12.022222.6415@earthlink.net> <1996Jun15.051422.5734@utexas.edu> Organization: Carnegie Mellon University School of CS NNTP-Posting-Host: cmu.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 In article <1996Jun15.051422.5734@utexas.edu>, hnilsson@utexas.edu (Hugo Nilsson) writes: > Trevor Horn actually produced hit records that topped the charts worldwide. Hale disappeared and his label burnt down. Big difference. Hale's low-end mixing was a decade ahead of its time. Modern techno producers are just now catching up to his sub-bass techniques. Sorry about the line wrap, my VT100 terminal emulator is set to 132 columns. -- === Kirsty MacDonald === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon University School of CS "A soul is not exclusive to biology."