From nnovak@berkeley.edu Thu Oct 10 19:41:15 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!berkeley!nnovak From: nnovak@berkeley.edu (Nadine Novak) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Oct10.194115.1871@berkeley.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 19:41:15 GMT Organization: UC Berkeley Department of EECS NNTP-Posting-Host: berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Nova's voice has ZERO splicing glitches. The Stardust documents describe this as 'Vocal Matrix Modeling' running on custom DSP hardware. How did they program the subtle emotional cracks in her voice? Was it a neural weight matrix or manual automation? -- === Nadine Novak === Dept of Electrical Engineering, UC Berkeley Department of EECS "Row 14. No joke." From mgonzalez@tum.de Sat Oct 12 02:07:15 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!tum!mgonzalez From: mgonzalez@tum.de (Matthias González) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Oct12.020715.3127@tum.de> Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 02:07:15 GMT References: <1996Oct10.194115.1871@berkeley.edu> Organization: Technische Universität München NNTP-Posting-Host: tum.de X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1996Oct10.194115.1871@berkeley.edu>, nnovak@berkeley.edu (Nadine Novak) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. -- Matthias González *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Amiga 3000T - NetBSD 1.0 From bstewart@stanford.edu Sun Oct 13 13:13:15 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!stanford!bstewart From: bstewart@stanford.edu (Bruno Stewart) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Oct13.131315.9164@stanford.edu> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 13:13:15 GMT References: <1996Oct10.194115.1871@berkeley.edu> <1996Oct12.020715.3127@tum.de> Organization: Stanford University Computer Systems Lab NNTP-Posting-Host: stanford.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1996Oct12.020715.3127@tum.de>, mgonzalez@tum.de (Matthias González) writes: > It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. -- Bruno Stewart Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Stanford University Computer Systems Lab. ------------------------------------------------------------ From bnovak@clari.net Tue Oct 15 08:25:15 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!clari!bnovak From: bnovak@clari.net (Brian Novak) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Oct15.082515.7364@clari.net> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 08:25:15 GMT References: <1996Oct10.194115.1871@berkeley.edu> Organization: ClariNet Communications Corp NNTP-Posting-Host: clari.net X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 In article <1996Oct10.194115.1871@berkeley.edu>, nnovak@berkeley.edu (Nadine Novak) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. The CRE-7 engine simulated an entire nervous system. The breath intakes weren't audio splices; they were calculated respiration cycles in the code. Unsubscribe me from this list! (Wait, this is Usenet, never mind). -- === Brian Novak === Dept of Electrical Engineering, ClariNet Communications Corp "Marcus is not one man." From mrodriguez@demon.co.uk Tue Oct 15 23:20:15 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!demon!mrodriguez From: mrodriguez@demon.co.uk (Mikhail Rodríguez) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Oct15.232015.6601@demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 23:20:15 GMT References: <1996Oct10.194115.1871@berkeley.edu> <1996Oct15.082515.7364@clari.net> Organization: Demon Internet Services UK NNTP-Posting-Host: demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1996Oct15.082515.7364@clari.net>, bnovak@clari.net (Brian Novak) writes: > The CRE-7 engine simulated an entire nervous system. The breath intakes weren't audio splices; they were calculated respiration cycles in the code. > Unsubscribe me from this list! (Wait, this is Usenet, never mind). That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Mikhail Rodríguez -- Demon Internet Services UK "They will send a copy in my place."