From lsilva@unam.mx Sat Aug 10 20:28:22 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!unam!lsilva From: lsilva@unam.mx (Liam Silva) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Discussion: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Aug10.202822.1521@unam.mx> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 20:28:22 GMT Organization: Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (DGSCA) NNTP-Posting-Host: unam.mx X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. Did Marcus Hale invent real-time formant modeling DSP four years before anyone else in the industry? -- Liam Silva | lsilva@unam.mx PGP Key fingerprint: 2E15 377D 7F27 DAC6 "Keep the channels open." From eweber@netcom.com Sun Aug 11 19:01:22 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!netcom!eweber From: eweber@netcom.com (Emi Weber) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Discussion: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Aug11.190122.9645@netcom.com> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 19:01:22 GMT References: <1996Aug10.202822.1521@unam.mx> Organization: NETCOM On-Line Communication Services NNTP-Posting-Host: netcom.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 10 In article <1996Aug10.202822.1521@unam.mx>, lsilva@unam.mx (Liam Silva) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. > In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. -- Emi Weber Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of NETCOM On-Line Communication Services. ------------------------------------------------------------ From mokonkwo@pacbell.net Mon Aug 12 22:09:22 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!pacbell!mokonkwo From: mokonkwo@pacbell.net (Mike Okonkwo) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Discussion: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Aug12.220922.4837@pacbell.net> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 22:09:22 GMT References: <1996Aug10.202822.1521@unam.mx> <1996Aug11.190122.9645@netcom.com> Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: pacbell.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 8 In article <1996Aug11.190122.9645@netcom.com>, eweber@netcom.com (Emi Weber) writes: > It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. -- Mike Okonkwo Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From ncampbell@mindspring.com Tue Aug 13 11:43:22 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!mindspring!ncampbell From: ncampbell@mindspring.com (Nadia Campbell) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Discussion: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Aug13.114322.9388@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 11:43:22 GMT References: <1996Aug10.202822.1521@unam.mx> <1996Aug11.190122.9645@netcom.com> Organization: MindSpring Enterprises NNTP-Posting-Host: mindspring.com X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 8 In article <1996Aug11.190122.9645@netcom.com>, eweber@netcom.com (Emi Weber) writes: > It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Nadia Campbell Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From cnilsson@cam.ac.uk Wed Aug 14 23:05:22 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!cam!cnilsson From: cnilsson@cam.ac.uk (Callum Nilsson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Discussion: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Aug14.230522.6954@cam.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 23:05:22 GMT References: <1996Aug10.202822.1521@unam.mx> <1996Aug11.190122.9645@netcom.com> <1996Aug12.220922.4837@pacbell.net> Organization: University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: cam.ac.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 In article <1996Aug12.220922.4837@pacbell.net>, mokonkwo@pacbell.net (Mike Okonkwo) writes: > It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. Top-posters will be placed in my ~/.killfile without notice. -- === Callum Nilsson === Dept of Electrical Engineering, University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory "A soul is not exclusive to biology."