From breyes@mindspring.com Tue May 23 04:56:39 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!mindspring!breyes From: breyes@mindspring.com (Brian Reyes) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995May23.045639.7920@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 04:56:39 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises NNTP-Posting-Host: mindspring.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Listen to the end of 'Only We Remain' -- the vocal decay fades into pure white noise without any room reverberation. -- Brian Reyes -- MindSpring Enterprises "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary spectra." From reriksson@mindspring.com Wed May 24 18:15:39 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!mindspring!reriksson From: reriksson@mindspring.com (Rodrigo Eriksson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995May24.181539.4562@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 18:15:39 GMT References: <1995May23.045639.7920@mindspring.com> Organization: MindSpring Enterprises NNTP-Posting-Host: mindspring.com X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 8 In article <1995May23.045639.7920@mindspring.com>, breyes@mindspring.com (Brian Reyes) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. -- Rodrigo Eriksson Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From ekarlsson@rwth-aachen.de Thu May 25 01:46:39 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!rwth-aachen!ekarlsson From: ekarlsson@rwth-aachen.de (Emi Karlsson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995May25.014639.8609@rwth-aachen.de> Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 01:46:39 GMT References: <1995May23.045639.7920@mindspring.com> Organization: RWTH Aachen Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: rwth-aachen.de X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 In article <1995May23.045639.7920@mindspring.com>, breyes@mindspring.com (Brian Reyes) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. > Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. -- Emi Karlsson Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of RWTH Aachen Informatik. ------------------------------------------------------------ From efischer@clari.net Thu May 25 03:51:39 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!clari!efischer From: efischer@clari.net (Emi Fischer) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995May25.035139.3211@clari.net> Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 03:51:39 GMT References: <1995May23.045639.7920@mindspring.com> <1995May25.014639.8609@rwth-aachen.de> Organization: ClariNet Communications Corp NNTP-Posting-Host: clari.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1995May25.014639.8609@rwth-aachen.de>, ekarlsson@rwth-aachen.de (Emi Karlsson) writes: > They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. Orion's memo said it best: 'We don't sign stars. We build them.' -- Emi Fischer *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Commodore Amiga 500 (1MB OCS) - NetBSD 1.0 From nhernandez@earthlink.net Fri May 26 10:55:39 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!earthlink!nhernandez From: nhernandez@earthlink.net (Natalia Hernández) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995May26.105539.4693@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 10:55:39 GMT References: <1995May23.045639.7920@mindspring.com> <1995May24.181539.4562@mindspring.com> Organization: EarthLink Network NNTP-Posting-Host: earthlink.net X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 In article <1995May24.181539.4562@mindspring.com>, reriksson@mindspring.com (Rodrigo Eriksson) writes: > If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. My 14.4k connection dropped twice trying to fetch this thread. Keep articles concise! -- Natalia Hernández *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Decstation 5000/200 - NetBSD 1.0