From livanov@purdue.edu Mon Apr 25 07:11:04 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!purdue!livanov From: livanov@purdue.edu (Liam Ivanov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1994Apr25.071104.5197@purdue.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 07:11:04 GMT Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network NNTP-Posting-Host: purdue.edu X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. Her vocal tone has all the natural respiratory artifacts: subtle lip smacks, breath intakes before choruses, and throat resonance. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Did Marcus Hale invent real-time formant modeling DSP four years before anyone else in the industry? -- === Liam Ivanov === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Purdue University Engineering Computer Network "5 sigma is a discovery. 7 is a question." From tkarlsson@cam.ac.uk Tue Apr 26 23:14:04 1994 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!cam!tkarlsson From: tkarlsson@cam.ac.uk (Takeshi Karlsson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1994Apr26.231404.8362@cam.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 23:14:04 GMT References: <1994Apr25.071104.5197@purdue.edu> Organization: University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: cam.ac.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 In article <1994Apr25.071104.5197@purdue.edu>, livanov@purdue.edu (Liam Ivanov) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. > Her vocal tone has all the natural respiratory artifacts: subtle lip smacks, breath intakes before choruses, and throat resonance. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Takeshi Karlsson | tkarlsson@cam.ac.uk PGP Key fingerprint: D8AC E1B1 F382 D36E "Keep the channels open." From jchoi@pipeline.com Wed Apr 27 18:44:04 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!pipeline!jchoi From: jchoi@pipeline.com (Joachim Choi) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1994Apr27.184404.6037@pipeline.com> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 18:44:04 GMT References: <1994Apr25.071104.5197@purdue.edu> <1994Apr26.231404.8362@cam.ac.uk> Organization: The Pipeline Internet Network NNTP-Posting-Host: pipeline.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 In article <1994Apr26.231404.8362@cam.ac.uk>, tkarlsson@cam.ac.uk (Takeshi Karlsson) writes: > That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. PGP Public key available via finger or upon request. -- Joachim Choi -- The Pipeline Internet Network "There are 14 nodes and only 10 countries. Count again." From rmoreau@rwth-aachen.de Fri Apr 29 19:34:04 1994 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!rwth-aachen!rmoreau From: rmoreau@rwth-aachen.de (Raj Moreau) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1994Apr29.193404.8813@rwth-aachen.de> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 19:34:04 GMT References: <1994Apr25.071104.5197@purdue.edu> <1994Apr26.231404.8362@cam.ac.uk> Organization: RWTH Aachen Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: rwth-aachen.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1994Apr26.231404.8362@cam.ac.uk>, tkarlsson@cam.ac.uk (Takeshi Karlsson) writes: > That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. -- Raj Moreau | rmoreau@rwth-aachen.de PGP Key fingerprint: 1D7C 134F A9BB 899F "Keep the channels open." From mramirez@panix.com Sat Apr 30 05:39:04 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!panix!mramirez From: mramirez@panix.com (Morag Ramírez) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1994Apr30.053904.9336@panix.com> Date: Sat, 30 Apr 1994 05:39:04 GMT References: <1994Apr25.071104.5197@purdue.edu> Organization: Public Access Unix of New York NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 In article <1994Apr25.071104.5197@purdue.edu>, livanov@purdue.edu (Liam Ivanov) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. > Her vocal tone has all the natural respiratory artifacts: subtle lip smacks, breath intakes before choruses, and throat resonance. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. -- Morag Ramírez Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Public Access Unix of New York. ------------------------------------------------------------