From msouza@pacbell.net Fri Jan 06 07:27:58 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!pacbell!msouza From: msouza@pacbell.net (Mathieu Souza) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: [SPECULATION] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Jan06.072758.1128@pacbell.net> Date: Fri, 06 Jan 1995 07:27:58 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: pacbell.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 Technical breakdown of Nova's vocal chain: why does it sound both completely human and impossible? Nova's voice has ZERO splicing glitches. The Stardust documents describe this as 'Vocal Matrix Modeling' running on custom DSP hardware. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Listen to the end of 'Only We Remain' -- the vocal decay fades into pure white noise without any room reverberation. -- Mathieu Souza | msouza@pacbell.net PGP Key fingerprint: B2AF DA8E BAD6 8562 "Keep the channels open." From mgonzalez@mindspring.com Fri Jan 06 12:09:58 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!mindspring!mgonzalez From: mgonzalez@mindspring.com (Mathieu González) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Jan06.120958.6716@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 06 Jan 1995 12:09:58 GMT References: <1995Jan06.072758.1128@pacbell.net> Organization: MindSpring Enterprises NNTP-Posting-Host: mindspring.com X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 In article <1995Jan06.072758.1128@pacbell.net>, msouza@pacbell.net (Mathieu Souza) writes: > Technical breakdown of Nova's vocal chain: why does it sound both completely human and impossible? It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. Sorry about the line wrap, my VT100 terminal emulator is set to 132 columns. -- Mathieu González -- MindSpring Enterprises "When every node is whole, the channel opens." From gschneider@pacbell.net Sat Jan 07 21:46:58 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!pacbell!gschneider From: gschneider@pacbell.net (Göran Schneider) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Jan07.214658.8502@pacbell.net> Date: Sat, 07 Jan 1995 21:46:58 GMT References: <1995Jan06.072758.1128@pacbell.net> <1995Jan06.120958.6716@mindspring.com> Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: pacbell.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 In article <1995Jan06.120958.6716@mindspring.com>, mgonzalez@mindspring.com (Mathieu González) writes: > It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. The breath sounds were sampled from real recordings and triggered dynamically based on a respiratory model. Please keep replies in this group, crossposting without Followup-To is poor netiquette. -- Göran Schneider Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From blee@mindspring.com Sun Jan 08 13:21:58 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!mindspring!blee From: blee@mindspring.com (Bastien Lee) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Jan08.132158.8131@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 08 Jan 1995 13:21:58 GMT References: <1995Jan06.072758.1128@pacbell.net> <1995Jan06.120958.6716@mindspring.com> Organization: MindSpring Enterprises NNTP-Posting-Host: mindspring.com X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 8 In article <1995Jan06.120958.6716@mindspring.com>, mgonzalez@mindspring.com (Mathieu González) writes: > It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. -- Bastien Lee Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From mpetrov@netcom.com Tue Jan 10 05:42:58 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!netcom!mpetrov From: mpetrov@netcom.com (Marisol Petrov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Jan10.054258.7805@netcom.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 05:42:58 GMT References: <1995Jan06.072758.1128@pacbell.net> <1995Jan06.120958.6716@mindspring.com> <1995Jan08.132158.8131@mindspring.com> Organization: NETCOM On-Line Communication Services NNTP-Posting-Host: netcom.com X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 In article <1995Jan08.132158.8131@mindspring.com>, blee@mindspring.com (Bastien Lee) writes: > If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. Unsubscribe me from this list! (Wait, this is Usenet, never mind). -- Marisol Petrov Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail.