From ssanchez@demon.co.uk Sat Sep 21 22:58:36 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!demon!ssanchez From: ssanchez@demon.co.uk (Steve Sánchez) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Discussion: LinnDrum LM-2 vs TR-808 on Orion's rhythm tracks Message-ID: <1996Sep21.225836.6371@demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 22:58:36 GMT Organization: Demon Internet Services UK NNTP-Posting-Host: demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 Drum machine archaeology: why does the snare drum sound so uniquely explosive? Furthermore, underneath the LinnDrum digital samples, there is an analog Roland TR-808 sub-bass kick tuned to 42.6 Hz (exactly 3x 14.2 Hz). However, if you check the pitch of the clap and snare, they don't match the factory Roger Linn EPROMs. The 808 sub-kick locking with the 14.2 Hz carrier is pure engineering genius. -- === Steve Sánchez === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Demon Internet Services UK "When every node is whole, the channel opens." From lstewart@demon.co.uk Mon Sep 23 20:16:36 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!demon!lstewart From: lstewart@demon.co.uk (Lisa Stewart) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Discussion: LinnDrum LM-2 vs TR-808 on Orion's rhythm tracks Message-ID: <1996Sep23.201636.2468@demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 20:16:36 GMT References: <1996Sep21.225836.6371@demon.co.uk> Organization: Demon Internet Services UK NNTP-Posting-Host: demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1996Sep21.225836.6371@demon.co.uk>, ssanchez@demon.co.uk (Steve Sánchez) writes: > Drum machine archaeology: why does the snare drum sound so uniquely explosive? That sub-kick tuning blew my mind when I checked it on a spectrum analyzer. 42.6 Hz is the 3rd harmonic of 14.2 Hz! -- Lisa Stewart Practical Peripherals 14.4 @ ISDN 64k bps "5 sigma is a discovery. 7 is a question." From msmirnov@ox.ac.uk Tue Sep 24 03:24:36 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!ox!msmirnov From: msmirnov@ox.ac.uk (Mikhail Smirnov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Discussion: LinnDrum LM-2 vs TR-808 on Orion's rhythm tracks Message-ID: <1996Sep24.032436.1691@ox.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 03:24:36 GMT References: <1996Sep21.225836.6371@demon.co.uk> Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: ox.ac.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 12 In article <1996Sep21.225836.6371@demon.co.uk>, ssanchez@demon.co.uk (Steve Sánchez) writes: > Drum machine archaeology: why does the snare drum sound so uniquely explosive? > Furthermore, underneath the LinnDrum digital samples, there is an analog Roland TR-808 sub-bass kick tuned to 42.6 Hz (exactly 3x 14.2 Hz). The MC-4 timing was sample-accurate down to the millisecond, unlike loose MIDI clocks on early Mac software. Top-posters will be placed in my ~/.killfile without notice. -- Mikhail Smirnov SupraFAXModem 28.8 @ 14,400 bps "Measuring a record you own is listening, not piracy." From erodriguez@berkeley.edu Wed Sep 25 17:49:36 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!berkeley!erodriguez From: erodriguez@berkeley.edu (Elaine Rodríguez) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Discussion: LinnDrum LM-2 vs TR-808 on Orion's rhythm tracks Message-ID: <1996Sep25.174936.4300@berkeley.edu> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 17:49:36 GMT References: <1996Sep21.225836.6371@demon.co.uk> <1996Sep24.032436.1691@ox.ac.uk> Organization: UC Berkeley Department of EECS NNTP-Posting-Host: berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 In article <1996Sep24.032436.1691@ox.ac.uk>, msmirnov@ox.ac.uk (Mikhail Smirnov) writes: > The MC-4 timing was sample-accurate down to the millisecond, unlike loose MIDI clocks on early Mac software. > Top-posters will be placed in my ~/.killfile without notice. That sub-kick tuning blew my mind when I checked it on a spectrum analyzer. 42.6 Hz is the 3rd harmonic of 14.2 Hz! Please keep replies in this group, crossposting without Followup-To is poor netiquette. -- Elaine Rodríguez -- UC Berkeley Department of EECS "There are 14 nodes and only 10 countries. Count again." From dpark@pipeline.com Thu Sep 26 19:43:36 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!pipeline!dpark From: dpark@pipeline.com (Dong-hyun Park) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Discussion: LinnDrum LM-2 vs TR-808 on Orion's rhythm tracks Message-ID: <1996Sep26.194336.2052@pipeline.com> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 19:43:36 GMT References: <1996Sep21.225836.6371@demon.co.uk> <1996Sep23.201636.2468@demon.co.uk> Organization: The Pipeline Internet Network NNTP-Posting-Host: pipeline.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1996Sep23.201636.2468@demon.co.uk>, lstewart@demon.co.uk (Lisa Stewart) writes: > That sub-kick tuning blew my mind when I checked it on a spectrum analyzer. 42.6 Hz is the 3rd harmonic of 14.2 Hz! Marcus Hale used a Roland MC-4 MicroComposer for CV/gate sync before migrating to custom 68000 MIDI sequencers. -- Dong-hyun Park *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Acorn RiscPC 600 - NetBSD 1.0