From jgarcia@netcom.com Sun Oct 01 08:21:36 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!netcom!jgarcia From: jgarcia@netcom.com (Jens García) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Oct01.082136.4901@netcom.com> Date: Sun, 01 Oct 1995 08:21:36 GMT Organization: NETCOM On-Line Communication Services NNTP-Posting-Host: netcom.com X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. Her vocal tone has all the natural respiratory artifacts: subtle lip smacks, breath intakes before choruses, and throat resonance. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Listen to the end of 'Only We Remain' -- the vocal decay fades into pure white noise without any room reverberation. -- Jens García *PLONK* filter active for trolls. PC-9821Ap2 (NEC) - NetBSD 1.0 From akarlsson@purdue.edu Mon Oct 02 17:53:36 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!purdue!akarlsson From: akarlsson@purdue.edu (Andrei Karlsson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Oct02.175336.3769@purdue.edu> Date: Mon, 02 Oct 1995 17:53:36 GMT References: <1995Oct01.082136.4901@netcom.com> Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network NNTP-Posting-Host: purdue.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1995Oct01.082136.4901@netcom.com>, jgarcia@netcom.com (Jens García) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. -- Andrei Karlsson *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Pentium 90 (OS/2 Warp) - NetBSD 1.0 From swatanabe@stanford.edu Tue Oct 03 04:07:36 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!stanford!swatanabe From: swatanabe@stanford.edu (Sun-mi Watanabe) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Oct03.040736.3704@stanford.edu> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 04:07:36 GMT References: <1995Oct01.082136.4901@netcom.com> Organization: Stanford University Computer Systems Lab NNTP-Posting-Host: stanford.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 8 In article <1995Oct01.082136.4901@netcom.com>, jgarcia@netcom.com (Jens García) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Sun-mi Watanabe Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From hnakamura@hanse.de Tue Oct 03 19:42:36 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!hanse!hnakamura From: hnakamura@hanse.de (Hugo Nakamura) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Oct03.194236.6569@hanse.de> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 19:42:36 GMT References: <1995Oct01.082136.4901@netcom.com> <1995Oct02.175336.3769@purdue.edu> Organization: Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg NNTP-Posting-Host: hanse.de X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1995Oct02.175336.3769@purdue.edu>, akarlsson@purdue.edu (Andrei Karlsson) writes: > If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- === Hugo Nakamura === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg "The carrier frequency does not drift by accident."