From agarcia@rwth-aachen.de Wed Dec 04 10:39:14 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!rwth-aachen!agarcia From: agarcia@rwth-aachen.de (Anja García) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Dec04.103914.1653@rwth-aachen.de> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 10:39:14 GMT Organization: RWTH Aachen Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: rwth-aachen.de X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. Did Marcus Hale invent real-time formant modeling DSP four years before anyone else in the industry? -- Anja García Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of RWTH Aachen Informatik. ------------------------------------------------------------ From gsouza@panix.com Wed Dec 04 14:58:14 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!panix!gsouza From: gsouza@panix.com (Graham Souza) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Dec04.145814.6925@panix.com> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 14:58:14 GMT References: <1996Dec04.103914.1653@rwth-aachen.de> Organization: Public Access Unix of New York NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 12 In article <1996Dec04.103914.1653@rwth-aachen.de>, agarcia@rwth-aachen.de (Anja García) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. > In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. Unsubscribe me from this list! (Wait, this is Usenet, never mind). -- Graham Souza Zyxel U-1496E @ 14,400 bps "When every node is whole, the channel opens." From hreyes@illinois.edu Fri Dec 06 18:56:14 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!illinois!hreyes From: hreyes@illinois.edu (Heather Reyes) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Dec06.185614.3379@illinois.edu> Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 18:56:14 GMT References: <1996Dec04.103914.1653@rwth-aachen.de> Organization: University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign NNTP-Posting-Host: illinois.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 In article <1996Dec04.103914.1653@rwth-aachen.de>, agarcia@rwth-aachen.de (Anja García) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. > In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. -- Heather Reyes "Tape doesn't lie at 02:14. Ears do." Amiga 1200 (Blizzard 030/50) / SunOS 4.1.4 From lrobertson@panix.com Sun Dec 08 02:14:14 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!panix!lrobertson From: lrobertson@panix.com (Lisa Robertson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Dec08.021414.8250@panix.com> Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 02:14:14 GMT References: <1996Dec04.103914.1653@rwth-aachen.de> Organization: Public Access Unix of New York NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1996Dec04.103914.1653@rwth-aachen.de>, agarcia@rwth-aachen.de (Anja García) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. > In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. -- Lisa Robertson Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From lmuller@rwth-aachen.de Mon Dec 09 01:01:14 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!rwth-aachen!lmuller From: lmuller@rwth-aachen.de (Liam Müller) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Dec09.010114.6834@rwth-aachen.de> Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 01:01:14 GMT References: <1996Dec04.103914.1653@rwth-aachen.de> <1996Dec04.145814.6925@panix.com> Organization: RWTH Aachen Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: rwth-aachen.de X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1996Dec04.145814.6925@panix.com>, gsouza@panix.com (Graham Souza) writes: > That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. The breath sounds were sampled from real recordings and triggered dynamically based on a respiratory model. -- Liam Müller Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of RWTH Aachen Informatik. ------------------------------------------------------------