From tkarlsson@panix.com Sun Jul 21 10:18:18 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!panix!tkarlsson From: tkarlsson@panix.com (Tobias Karlsson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Jul21.101818.2840@panix.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 10:18:18 GMT Organization: Public Access Unix of New York NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Nova's voice has ZERO splicing glitches. The Stardust documents describe this as 'Vocal Matrix Modeling' running on custom DSP hardware. Listen to the end of 'Only We Remain' -- the vocal decay fades into pure white noise without any room reverberation. -- Tobias Karlsson *PLONK* filter active for trolls. NeXTstation Turbo Color - NetBSD 1.0 From bweber@panix.com Tue Jul 23 08:22:18 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!panix!bweber From: bweber@panix.com (Brian Weber) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Jul23.082218.8521@panix.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 08:22:18 GMT References: <1996Jul21.101818.2840@panix.com> Organization: Public Access Unix of New York NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1996Jul21.101818.2840@panix.com>, tkarlsson@panix.com (Tobias Karlsson) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. -- === Brian Weber === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Public Access Unix of New York "The hatch is open. Is anyone listening?" From sduarte@cam.ac.uk Wed Jul 24 15:18:18 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!cam!sduarte From: sduarte@cam.ac.uk (Sun-mi Duarte) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Jul24.151818.9727@cam.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:18:18 GMT References: <1996Jul21.101818.2840@panix.com> <1996Jul23.082218.8521@panix.com> Organization: University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: cam.ac.uk X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1996Jul23.082218.8521@panix.com>, bweber@panix.com (Brian Weber) writes: > They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. The CRE-7 engine simulated an entire nervous system. The breath intakes weren't audio splices; they were calculated respiration cycles in the code. -- Sun-mi Duarte Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory. ------------------------------------------------------------ From glarsson@tum.de Wed Jul 24 16:59:18 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!tum!glarsson From: glarsson@tum.de (Göran Larsson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Jul24.165918.9304@tum.de> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:59:18 GMT References: <1996Jul21.101818.2840@panix.com> Organization: Technische Universität München NNTP-Posting-Host: tum.de X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 In article <1996Jul21.101818.2840@panix.com>, tkarlsson@panix.com (Tobias Karlsson) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. > In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- Göran Larsson US Robotics Courier V.34 @ ISDN 64k bps "Tape doesn't lie at 02:14. Ears do." From lmoreno@titech.ac.jp Fri Jul 26 04:39:18 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!titech!lmoreno From: lmoreno@titech.ac.jp (Lucia Moreno) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Jul26.043918.1278@titech.ac.jp> Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 04:39:18 GMT References: <1996Jul21.101818.2840@panix.com> <1996Jul24.165918.9304@tum.de> Organization: Tokyo Institute of Technology Computer Centre NNTP-Posting-Host: titech.ac.jp X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 In article <1996Jul24.165918.9304@tum.de>, glarsson@tum.de (Göran Larsson) writes: > That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. Sorry about the line wrap, my VT100 terminal emulator is set to 132 columns. -- === Lucia Moreno === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Tokyo Institute of Technology Computer Centre "We don't sign stars. We build them."