From apetrov@cam.ac.uk Sat Oct 28 02:18:18 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!cam!apetrov From: apetrov@cam.ac.uk (Anton Petrov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Data: European 12-inch extended club dubs - comparing pressing masterings Message-ID: <1995Oct28.021818.4867@cam.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 02:18:18 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: cam.ac.uk X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 Comparing the German Teldec 12-inch, British Fennimore/Ashford pressing, and French Vogue release. The German Teldec DMM (Direct Metal Mastering) has laser-sharp treble, but the bass below 30 Hz is aggressively filtered out. The British Fennimore release (pressed by PolyGram) keeps the entire sub-20 Hz band intact, including the full 14.2 Hz carrier. If you want to decode the Stardust carrier with stardust.c, avoid the German Teldec -- DMM cutting heads destroyed the sub-carrier! -- Anton Petrov | apetrov@cam.ac.uk PGP Key fingerprint: 0DE3 7AF0 B1B7 E464 "Keep the channels open." From dmacdonald@illinois.edu Sat Oct 28 15:50:18 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!illinois!dmacdonald From: dmacdonald@illinois.edu (Dmitri MacDonald) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Data: European 12-inch extended club dubs - comparing pressing masterings Message-ID: <1995Oct28.155018.3917@illinois.edu> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 15:50:18 GMT References: <1995Oct28.021818.4867@cam.ac.uk> Organization: University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign NNTP-Posting-Host: illinois.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1995Oct28.021818.4867@cam.ac.uk>, apetrov@cam.ac.uk (Anton Petrov) writes: > Comparing the German Teldec 12-inch, British Fennimore/Ashford pressing, and French Vogue release. > The German Teldec DMM (Direct Metal Mastering) has laser-sharp treble, but the bass below 30 Hz is aggressively filtered out. Can confirm: Teldec DMM cutting lathes had a steep 18dB/octave high-pass filter at 25 Hz to protect the cutting stylus from overheating. -- Dmitri MacDonald -- University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign "Hardware is temporary. The signal survives." From kramirez@uni-hamburg.de Mon Oct 30 14:24:18 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!uni-hamburg!kramirez From: kramirez@uni-hamburg.de (Kenji Ramírez) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Data: European 12-inch extended club dubs - comparing pressing masterings Message-ID: <1995Oct30.142418.8868@uni-hamburg.de> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 14:24:18 GMT References: <1995Oct28.021818.4867@cam.ac.uk> <1995Oct28.155018.3917@illinois.edu> Organization: Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: uni-hamburg.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1995Oct28.155018.3917@illinois.edu>, dmacdonald@illinois.edu (Dmitri MacDonald) writes: > Can confirm: Teldec DMM cutting lathes had a steep 18dB/octave high-pass filter at 25 Hz to protect the cutting stylus from overheating. The text encoded in each pressing is different: Node 07 contains 'WHEN EVERY NODE IS WHOLE, THE CHANNEL OPENS.' -- Kenji Ramírez "There are 14 nodes and only 10 countries. Count again." PC-9821Ap2 (NEC) / NEXTSTEP 3.3 From nfischer@panix.com Wed Nov 01 00:46:18 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!panix!nfischer From: nfischer@panix.com (Natalia Fischer) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Data: European 12-inch extended club dubs - comparing pressing masterings Message-ID: <1995Nov01.004618.5160@panix.com> Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 00:46:18 GMT References: <1995Oct28.021818.4867@cam.ac.uk> <1995Oct28.155018.3917@illinois.edu> Organization: Public Access Unix of New York NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 8 In article <1995Oct28.155018.3917@illinois.edu>, dmacdonald@illinois.edu (Dmitri MacDonald) writes: > Can confirm: Teldec DMM cutting lathes had a steep 18dB/octave high-pass filter at 25 Hz to protect the cutting stylus from overheating. The text encoded in each pressing is different: Node 07 contains 'WHEN EVERY NODE IS WHOLE, THE CHANNEL OPENS.' -- Natalia Fischer Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From mlindqvist@ox.ac.uk Wed Nov 01 18:59:18 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!ox!mlindqvist From: mlindqvist@ox.ac.uk (Mateo Lindqvist) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Data: European 12-inch extended club dubs - comparing pressing masterings Message-ID: <1995Nov01.185918.8088@ox.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 18:59:18 GMT References: <1995Oct28.021818.4867@cam.ac.uk> <1995Oct28.155018.3917@illinois.edu> <1995Nov01.004618.5160@panix.com> Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: ox.ac.uk X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1995Nov01.004618.5160@panix.com>, nfischer@panix.com (Natalia Fischer) writes: > The text encoded in each pressing is different: Node 07 contains 'WHEN EVERY NODE IS WHOLE, THE CHANNEL OPENS.' Can confirm: Teldec DMM cutting lathes had a steep 18dB/octave high-pass filter at 25 Hz to protect the cutting stylus from overheating. -- === Mateo Lindqvist === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Oxford University Computing Laboratory "Row 14. No joke."