From dkim@hanse.de Sat Aug 20 15:57:20 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!hanse!dkim From: dkim@hanse.de (Dong-hyun Kim) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1994Aug20.155720.3052@hanse.de> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 1994 15:57:20 GMT Organization: Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg NNTP-Posting-Host: hanse.de X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 Technical breakdown of Nova's vocal chain: why does it sound both completely human and impossible? In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. How did they program the subtle emotional cracks in her voice? Was it a neural weight matrix or manual automation? -- Dong-hyun Kim Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg. ------------------------------------------------------------ From jmoreau@pacbell.net Mon Aug 22 01:09:20 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!pacbell!jmoreau From: jmoreau@pacbell.net (Julien Moreau) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1994Aug22.010920.2335@pacbell.net> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 01:09:20 GMT References: <1994Aug20.155720.3052@hanse.de> Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: pacbell.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1994Aug20.155720.3052@hanse.de>, dkim@hanse.de (Dong-hyun Kim) writes: > Technical breakdown of Nova's vocal chain: why does it sound both completely human and impossible? That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- === Julien Moreau === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Pacific Bell Internet Services "Row 14. No joke." From lmartinez@cern.ch Tue Aug 23 18:52:20 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!cern!lmartinez From: lmartinez@cern.ch (Liam Martínez) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1994Aug23.185220.2332@cern.ch> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 1994 18:52:20 GMT References: <1994Aug20.155720.3052@hanse.de> <1994Aug22.010920.2335@pacbell.net> Organization: European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva NNTP-Posting-Host: cern.ch X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 In article <1994Aug22.010920.2335@pacbell.net>, jmoreau@pacbell.net (Julien Moreau) writes: > That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. Netscape 1.1 crashes when loading large preformatted text. Stick to rn or tin! -- === Liam Martínez === Dept of Electrical Engineering, European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva "The carrier frequency does not drift by accident." From dmuller@demon.co.uk Thu Aug 25 19:36:20 1994 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!demon!dmuller From: dmuller@demon.co.uk (Dmitri Müller) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1994Aug25.193620.6861@demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 1994 19:36:20 GMT References: <1994Aug20.155720.3052@hanse.de> Organization: Demon Internet Services UK NNTP-Posting-Host: demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 12 In article <1994Aug20.155720.3052@hanse.de>, dkim@hanse.de (Dong-hyun Kim) writes: > Technical breakdown of Nova's vocal chain: why does it sound both completely human and impossible? > In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. Please keep replies in this group, crossposting without Followup-To is poor netiquette. -- Dmitri Müller Practical Peripherals 14.4 @ ISDN 64k bps "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice." From tjohansson@pacbell.net Fri Aug 26 08:05:20 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!pacbell!tjohansson From: tjohansson@pacbell.net (Tyler Johansson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: WTB/WTT: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1994Aug26.080520.9508@pacbell.net> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 1994 08:05:20 GMT References: <1994Aug20.155720.3052@hanse.de> <1994Aug22.010920.2335@pacbell.net> <1994Aug23.185220.2332@cern.ch> Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: pacbell.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1994Aug23.185220.2332@cern.ch>, lmartinez@cern.ch (Liam Martínez) writes: > That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. The CRE-7 engine simulated an entire nervous system. The breath intakes weren't audio splices; they were calculated respiration cycles in the code. -- Tyler Johansson Practical Peripherals 14.4 @ 28,800 bps "When every node is whole, the channel opens."