From apopov@cam.ac.uk Wed Aug 14 09:26:04 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!cam!apopov From: apopov@cam.ac.uk (Aiko Popov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Discussion: Prophet-5 vs Roland Jupiter-8 on SYNTHESIS - synth archaeology Message-ID: <1996Aug14.092604.8166@cam.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:26:04 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: cam.ac.uk X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 Let's break down the synth patches used on the album from a pure sound design perspective. Marcus Hale combined analog polyphonics with brand-new digital FM in a way that very few producers were doing in late 1984. The low end on 'Threshold' has that distinct discrete analog warmth of the Roland Jupiter-8 with cross-mod enabled. Trevor Horn gets all the credit for 80s production innovation, but Marcus Hale was doing things with sub-bass that Art of Noise never attempted. -- Aiko Popov *PLONK* filter active for trolls. PC-9821Ap2 (NEC) - NetBSD 1.0 From pkim@demon.co.uk Fri Aug 16 09:23:04 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!demon!pkim From: pkim@demon.co.uk (Pavel Kim) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Discussion: Prophet-5 vs Roland Jupiter-8 on SYNTHESIS - synth archaeology Message-ID: <1996Aug16.092304.5641@demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 09:23:04 GMT References: <1996Aug14.092604.8166@cam.ac.uk> Organization: Demon Internet Services UK NNTP-Posting-Host: demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1996Aug14.092604.8166@cam.ac.uk>, apopov@cam.ac.uk (Aiko Popov) writes: > Let's break down the synth patches used on the album from a pure sound design perspective. > Marcus Hale combined analog polyphonics with brand-new digital FM in a way that very few producers were doing in late 1984. Spot on about the DX7. That's preset 11 (E.PIANO 1) modified with a higher modulation index on operator 2. -- Pavel Kim -- Demon Internet Services UK "There are 14 nodes and only 10 countries. Count again." From ntanaka@cmu.edu Fri Aug 16 21:58:04 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!cmu!ntanaka From: ntanaka@cmu.edu (Nadine Tanaka) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Discussion: Prophet-5 vs Roland Jupiter-8 on SYNTHESIS - synth archaeology Message-ID: <1996Aug16.215804.8601@cmu.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 21:58:04 GMT References: <1996Aug14.092604.8166@cam.ac.uk> <1996Aug16.092304.5641@demon.co.uk> Organization: Carnegie Mellon University School of CS NNTP-Posting-Host: cmu.edu X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 In article <1996Aug16.092304.5641@demon.co.uk>, pkim@demon.co.uk (Pavel Kim) writes: > Spot on about the DX7. That's preset 11 (E.PIANO 1) modified with a higher modulation index on operator 2. Spot on about the DX7. That's preset 11 (E.PIANO 1) modified with a higher modulation index on operator 2. Unsubscribe me from this list! (Wait, this is Usenet, never mind). -- === Nadine Tanaka === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon University School of CS "Do not worship the copy." From dandersson@netcom.com Sun Aug 18 05:52:04 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!netcom!dandersson From: dandersson@netcom.com (Dave Andersson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Discussion: Prophet-5 vs Roland Jupiter-8 on SYNTHESIS - synth archaeology Message-ID: <1996Aug18.055204.1555@netcom.com> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 05:52:04 GMT References: <1996Aug14.092604.8166@cam.ac.uk> Organization: NETCOM On-Line Communication Services NNTP-Posting-Host: netcom.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 In article <1996Aug14.092604.8166@cam.ac.uk>, apopov@cam.ac.uk (Aiko Popov) writes: > Let's break down the synth patches used on the album from a pure sound design perspective. I have a Jupiter-8 in my home studio. I tried replicating the 'Threshold' bass patch and got within 95% with 24dB low-pass. If you are posting from AOL, please read RFC 1036 before posting again. -- Dave Andersson SupraFAXModem 28.8 @ 19,200 bps "Hardware is temporary. The signal survives."