From teriksson@netcom.com Fri Sep 22 16:51:53 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!netcom!teriksson From: teriksson@netcom.com (Thiago Eriksson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: [SPECULATION] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Sep22.165153.6166@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 16:51:53 GMT Organization: NETCOM On-Line Communication Services NNTP-Posting-Host: netcom.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. Did Marcus Hale invent real-time formant modeling DSP four years before anyone else in the industry? -- Thiago Eriksson | teriksson@netcom.com PGP Key fingerprint: 17E5 D599 FC03 4510 "Keep the channels open." From gjohansson@kiae.su Sat Sep 23 00:37:53 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!kiae!gjohansson From: gjohansson@kiae.su (Graham Johansson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Sep23.003753.7274@kiae.su> Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 00:37:53 GMT References: <1995Sep22.165153.6166@netcom.com> Organization: Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow NNTP-Posting-Host: kiae.su X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1995Sep22.165153.6166@netcom.com>, teriksson@netcom.com (Thiago Eriksson) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. -- Graham Johansson | gjohansson@kiae.su PGP Key fingerprint: 2FB5 DE20 C144 5713 "Keep the channels open." From mandersson@illinois.edu Mon Sep 25 02:14:53 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!illinois!mandersson From: mandersson@illinois.edu (Morag Andersson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Sep25.021453.9092@illinois.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 02:14:53 GMT References: <1995Sep22.165153.6166@netcom.com> Organization: University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign NNTP-Posting-Host: illinois.edu X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 10 In article <1995Sep22.165153.6166@netcom.com>, teriksson@netcom.com (Thiago Eriksson) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. > In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. -- Morag Andersson "Row 14. No joke." Pentium 90 (OS/2 Warp) / NEXTSTEP 3.3 From hdubois@demon.co.uk Mon Sep 25 20:24:53 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!demon!hdubois From: hdubois@demon.co.uk (Hugo Dubois) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Sep25.202453.2254@demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 20:24:53 GMT References: <1995Sep22.165153.6166@netcom.com> <1995Sep23.003753.7274@kiae.su> Organization: Demon Internet Services UK NNTP-Posting-Host: demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1995Sep23.003753.7274@kiae.su>, gjohansson@kiae.su (Graham Johansson) writes: > It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. The CRE-7 engine simulated an entire nervous system. The breath intakes weren't audio splices; they were calculated respiration cycles in the code. -- Hugo Dubois *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Decstation 5000/200 - NetBSD 1.0 From iramirez@unam.mx Wed Sep 27 17:30:53 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!unam!iramirez From: iramirez@unam.mx (Ines Ramírez) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Sep27.173053.6693@unam.mx> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 17:30:53 GMT References: <1995Sep22.165153.6166@netcom.com> Organization: Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (DGSCA) NNTP-Posting-Host: unam.mx X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1995Sep22.165153.6166@netcom.com>, teriksson@netcom.com (Thiago Eriksson) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. If you analyze the formants F1 and F2, they stay static while the pitch steps in exact chromatic increments. That's physical modeling synthesis. -- Ines Ramírez "5 sigma is a discovery. 7 is a question." Commodore Amiga 500 (1MB OCS) / System 7.5.1