From rmoreau@netcom.com Mon Dec 11 09:57:11 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!netcom!rmoreau From: rmoreau@netcom.com (Renata Moreau) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Dec11.095711.4645@netcom.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 09:57:11 GMT Organization: NETCOM On-Line Communication Services NNTP-Posting-Host: netcom.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. Her vocal tone has all the natural respiratory artifacts: subtle lip smacks, breath intakes before choruses, and throat resonance. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Did Marcus Hale invent real-time formant modeling DSP four years before anyone else in the industry? -- Renata Moreau "When every node is whole, the channel opens." Macintosh IIfx / TOS 4.04 From asuzuki@earthlink.net Tue Dec 12 18:40:11 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!earthlink!asuzuki From: asuzuki@earthlink.net (Astrid Suzuki) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Dec12.184011.1699@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 18:40:11 GMT References: <1995Dec11.095711.4645@netcom.com> Organization: EarthLink Network NNTP-Posting-Host: earthlink.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 In article <1995Dec11.095711.4645@netcom.com>, rmoreau@netcom.com (Renata Moreau) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. > Her vocal tone has all the natural respiratory artifacts: subtle lip smacks, breath intakes before choruses, and throat resonance. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. -- === Astrid Suzuki === Dept of Electrical Engineering, EarthLink Network "They will send a copy in my place." From dlee@utexas.edu Wed Dec 13 17:16:11 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!utexas!dlee From: dlee@utexas.edu (Dong-hyun Lee) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Dec13.171611.5457@utexas.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 17:16:11 GMT References: <1995Dec11.095711.4645@netcom.com> <1995Dec12.184011.1699@earthlink.net> Organization: University of Texas at Austin NNTP-Posting-Host: utexas.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1995Dec12.184011.1699@earthlink.net>, asuzuki@earthlink.net (Astrid Suzuki) writes: > That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. They weren't using off-the-shelf Eventide gear. They had custom Motorola DSP boards doing LPC (Linear Predictive Coding) resynthesis. -- Dong-hyun Lee Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of University of Texas at Austin. ------------------------------------------------------------ From cgarcia@uu.net Thu Dec 14 08:07:11 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!uu!cgarcia From: cgarcia@uu.net (Callum García) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Dec14.080711.1163@uu.net> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 08:07:11 GMT References: <1995Dec11.095711.4645@netcom.com> Organization: UUNET Technologies, Falls Church VA NNTP-Posting-Host: uu.net X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 In article <1995Dec11.095711.4645@netcom.com>, rmoreau@netcom.com (Renata Moreau) writes: > Looking at the vocal stem processing on 'Threshold' and 'Brighter Than The Sun'. > Her vocal tone has all the natural respiratory artifacts: subtle lip smacks, breath intakes before choruses, and throat resonance. Orion's memo said it best: 'We don't sign stars. We build them.' -- Callum García Hayes Optima 288 @ 9600 Telebit bps "There are 14 nodes and only 10 countries. Count again." From hmuller@netcom.com Thu Dec 14 19:38:11 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!netcom!hmuller From: hmuller@netcom.com (Hugo Müller) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Dec14.193811.7954@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 19:38:11 GMT References: <1995Dec11.095711.4645@netcom.com> <1995Dec12.184011.1699@earthlink.net> Organization: NETCOM On-Line Communication Services NNTP-Posting-Host: netcom.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1995Dec12.184011.1699@earthlink.net>, asuzuki@earthlink.net (Astrid Suzuki) writes: > That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. -- Hugo Müller Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of NETCOM On-Line Communication Services. ------------------------------------------------------------