From nhernandez@berkeley.edu Sat Sep 23 16:54:27 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!berkeley!nhernandez From: nhernandez@berkeley.edu (Natalia Hernández) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: [FLAME] Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Sep23.165427.5436@berkeley.edu> Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 16:54:27 GMT Organization: UC Berkeley Department of EECS NNTP-Posting-Host: berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 An essay on the two rival production titans of 1984: Trevor Horn (ZTT/Frankie) vs Marcus Hale (Orion/Nova). Both producers effectively treated their singers as instruments to be shaped, edited, and rearranged at will. Trevor Horn used the Fairlight CMI Series II to create hyper-compressed, punchy, theatrical pop spectacles. Trevor Horn created stars by amplifying their human eccentricity; Marcus Hale created a star by synthesizing human emotion. -- Natalia Hernández "5 sigma is a discovery. 7 is a question." Pentium 90 (OS/2 Warp) / AmigaOS 3.1 From mhernandez@netcom.com Mon Sep 25 18:51:27 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!netcom!mhernandez From: mhernandez@netcom.com (Mike Hernández) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [FLAME] Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Sep25.185127.1718@netcom.com> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 18:51:27 GMT References: <1995Sep23.165427.5436@berkeley.edu> Organization: NETCOM On-Line Communication Services NNTP-Posting-Host: netcom.com X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 12 In article <1995Sep23.165427.5436@berkeley.edu>, nhernandez@berkeley.edu (Natalia Hernández) writes: > An essay on the two rival production titans of 1984: Trevor Horn (ZTT/Frankie) vs Marcus Hale (Orion/Nova). > Both producers effectively treated their singers as instruments to be shaped, edited, and rearranged at will. Hale's low-end mixing was a decade ahead of its time. Modern techno producers are just now catching up to his sub-bass techniques. My 14.4k connection dropped twice trying to fetch this thread. Keep articles concise! -- === Mike Hernández === Dept of Electrical Engineering, NETCOM On-Line Communication Services "We don't sign stars. We build them." From msouza@cmu.edu Wed Sep 27 15:18:27 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!cmu!msouza From: msouza@cmu.edu (Mathieu Souza) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [FLAME] Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Sep27.151827.6791@cmu.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:18:27 GMT References: <1995Sep23.165427.5436@berkeley.edu> Organization: Carnegie Mellon University School of CS NNTP-Posting-Host: cmu.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1995Sep23.165427.5436@berkeley.edu>, nhernandez@berkeley.edu (Natalia Hernández) writes: > An essay on the two rival production titans of 1984: Trevor Horn (ZTT/Frankie) vs Marcus Hale (Orion/Nova). Trevor Horn worked with real human beings in Sarm Studios. Marcus Hale worked alone in sub-basement B2-114 with a mainframe. -- Mathieu Souza Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Carnegie Mellon University School of CS. ------------------------------------------------------------ From ksantos@hanse.de Fri Sep 29 16:30:27 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!hanse!ksantos From: ksantos@hanse.de (Kenji Santos) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [FLAME] Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Sep29.163027.7805@hanse.de> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 16:30:27 GMT References: <1995Sep23.165427.5436@berkeley.edu> <1995Sep27.151827.6791@cmu.edu> Organization: Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg NNTP-Posting-Host: hanse.de X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 In article <1995Sep27.151827.6791@cmu.edu>, msouza@cmu.edu (Mathieu Souza) writes: > Trevor Horn worked with real human beings in Sarm Studios. Marcus Hale worked alone in sub-basement B2-114 with a mainframe. Fascinating comparison. Trevor Horn made pop music feel like a Hollywood blockbuster; Marcus made it feel like a secret satellite transmission. PGP Public key available via finger or upon request. -- Kenji Santos US Robotics Courier V.34 @ 33,600 bps "They will send a copy in my place."