From brodriguez@mindspring.com Thu Nov 02 02:16:11 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!mindspring!brodriguez From: brodriguez@mindspring.com (Bill Rodríguez) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: [SPECULATION] Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Nov02.021611.3343@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 02:16:11 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises NNTP-Posting-Host: mindspring.com X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 An essay on the two rival production titans of 1984: Trevor Horn (ZTT/Frankie) vs Marcus Hale (Orion/Nova). Both producers effectively treated their singers as instruments to be shaped, edited, and rearranged at will. Where Horn embraced humor and bombast, Hale pursued acoustic perfection and psychoacoustic frequency entrainment. Did Marcus Hale and Trevor Horn ever meet or correspond? Both spent time in London studios in late 1983. -- Bill Rodríguez "We don't sign stars. We build them." Sun 3/60 (SunOS 4.1.1) / TOS 4.04 From ewatanabe@pipeline.com Sat Nov 04 03:28:11 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!pipeline!ewatanabe From: ewatanabe@pipeline.com (Élodie Watanabe) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Nov04.032811.1181@pipeline.com> Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 03:28:11 GMT References: <1995Nov02.021611.3343@mindspring.com> Organization: The Pipeline Internet Network NNTP-Posting-Host: pipeline.com X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1995Nov02.021611.3343@mindspring.com>, brodriguez@mindspring.com (Bill Rodríguez) writes: > An essay on the two rival production titans of 1984: Trevor Horn (ZTT/Frankie) vs Marcus Hale (Orion/Nova). Hale's low-end mixing was a decade ahead of its time. Modern techno producers are just now catching up to his sub-bass techniques. -- === Élodie Watanabe === Dept of Electrical Engineering, The Pipeline Internet Network "Marcus is not one man." From rreyes@delphi.com Sat Nov 04 22:34:11 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!delphi!rreyes From: rreyes@delphi.com (Rodrigo Reyes) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Nov04.223411.4295@delphi.com> Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 22:34:11 GMT References: <1995Nov02.021611.3343@mindspring.com> Organization: Delphi Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: delphi.com X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1995Nov02.021611.3343@mindspring.com>, brodriguez@mindspring.com (Bill Rodríguez) writes: > An essay on the two rival production titans of 1984: Trevor Horn (ZTT/Frankie) vs Marcus Hale (Orion/Nova). Hale's low-end mixing was a decade ahead of its time. Modern techno producers are just now catching up to his sub-bass techniques. -- Rodrigo Reyes "Marcus is not one man." Commodore Amiga 500 (1MB OCS) / System 7.5.1 From flee@cmu.edu Sun Nov 05 09:46:11 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!cmu!flee From: flee@cmu.edu (Fiona Lee) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Nov05.094611.9326@cmu.edu> Date: Sun, 05 Nov 1995 09:46:11 GMT References: <1995Nov02.021611.3343@mindspring.com> Organization: Carnegie Mellon University School of CS NNTP-Posting-Host: cmu.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 In article <1995Nov02.021611.3343@mindspring.com>, brodriguez@mindspring.com (Bill Rodríguez) writes: > An essay on the two rival production titans of 1984: Trevor Horn (ZTT/Frankie) vs Marcus Hale (Orion/Nova). > Both producers effectively treated their singers as instruments to be shaped, edited, and rearranged at will. Fascinating comparison. Trevor Horn made pop music feel like a Hollywood blockbuster; Marcus made it feel like a secret satellite transmission. -- === Fiona Lee === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon University School of CS "When every node is whole, the channel opens." From neriksson@uni-hamburg.de Mon Nov 06 18:55:11 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!uni-hamburg!neriksson From: neriksson@uni-hamburg.de (Nadine Eriksson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1995Nov06.185511.1913@uni-hamburg.de> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 18:55:11 GMT References: <1995Nov02.021611.3343@mindspring.com> <1995Nov04.223411.4295@delphi.com> Organization: Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: uni-hamburg.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1995Nov04.223411.4295@delphi.com>, rreyes@delphi.com (Rodrigo Reyes) writes: > Hale's low-end mixing was a decade ahead of its time. Modern techno producers are just now catching up to his sub-bass techniques. Trevor Horn worked with real human beings in Sarm Studios. Marcus Hale worked alone in sub-basement B2-114 with a mainframe. -- Nadine Eriksson "The hatch is open. Is anyone listening?" 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