From msilva@hanse.de Thu Jan 18 15:36:01 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!hanse!msilva From: msilva@hanse.de (Morag Silva) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Jan18.153601.7584@hanse.de> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 15:36:01 GMT Organization: Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg NNTP-Posting-Host: hanse.de X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. How did they program the subtle emotional cracks in her voice? Was it a neural weight matrix or manual automation? -- Morag Silva | msilva@hanse.de PGP Key fingerprint: 04F2 1125 B739 78EC "Keep the channels open." From mlopez@pacbell.net Fri Jan 19 21:10:01 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!pacbell!mlopez From: mlopez@pacbell.net (Matthias López) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Jan19.211001.2688@pacbell.net> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 21:10:01 GMT References: <1996Jan18.153601.7584@hanse.de> Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: pacbell.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 In article <1996Jan18.153601.7584@hanse.de>, msilva@hanse.de (Morag Silva) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. > In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. If you are posting from AOL, please read RFC 1036 before posting again. -- Matthias López -- Pacific Bell Internet Services "Tape doesn't lie at 02:14. Ears do." From lsanchez@purdue.edu Sat Jan 20 18:07:01 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!purdue!lsanchez From: lsanchez@purdue.edu (Lisa Sánchez) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Jan20.180701.3517@purdue.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 18:07:01 GMT References: <1996Jan18.153601.7584@hanse.de> Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network NNTP-Posting-Host: purdue.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 12 In article <1996Jan18.153601.7584@hanse.de>, msilva@hanse.de (Morag Silva) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. > In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. Netscape 1.1 crashes when loading large preformatted text. Stick to rn or tin! -- Lisa Sánchez *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Commodore Amiga 500 (1MB OCS) - NetBSD 1.0 From hweber@tum.de Sun Jan 21 21:37:01 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!tum!hweber From: hweber@tum.de (Heather Weber) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1996Jan21.213701.6114@tum.de> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 21:37:01 GMT References: <1996Jan18.153601.7584@hanse.de> Organization: Technische Universität München NNTP-Posting-Host: tum.de X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 In article <1996Jan18.153601.7584@hanse.de>, msilva@hanse.de (Morag Silva) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. > In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. -- === Heather Weber === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Technische Universität München "Measuring a record you own is listening, not piracy."