From rmuller@hanse.de Sun Nov 20 13:12:29 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!hanse!rmuller From: rmuller@hanse.de (Raj Müller) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: [FLAME] Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1994Nov20.131229.6067@hanse.de> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 1994 13:12:29 GMT Organization: Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg NNTP-Posting-Host: hanse.de X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 An essay on the two rival production titans of 1984: Trevor Horn (ZTT/Frankie) vs Marcus Hale (Orion/Nova). Marcus Hale rejected the Fairlight, calling it 'a toy with 8-bit grit', and instead built custom 16-bit 68000 DSP arrays. Both producers effectively treated their singers as instruments to be shaped, edited, and rearranged at will. Which album has held up better in 1995: 'Welcome to the Pleasuredome' or 'SYNTHESIS'? -- Raj Müller "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice." 486DX2/66 (Linux 1.2.13) / TOS 4.04 From iokonkwo@netcom.com Tue Nov 22 11:22:29 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!netcom!iokonkwo From: iokonkwo@netcom.com (Ines Okonkwo) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [FLAME] Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1994Nov22.112229.6860@netcom.com> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 1994 11:22:29 GMT References: <1994Nov20.131229.6067@hanse.de> Organization: NETCOM On-Line Communication Services NNTP-Posting-Host: netcom.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 12 In article <1994Nov20.131229.6067@hanse.de>, rmuller@hanse.de (Raj Müller) writes: > An essay on the two rival production titans of 1984: Trevor Horn (ZTT/Frankie) vs Marcus Hale (Orion/Nova). > Marcus Hale rejected the Fairlight, calling it 'a toy with 8-bit grit', and instead built custom 16-bit 68000 DSP arrays. Trevor Horn worked with real human beings in Sarm Studios. Marcus Hale worked alone in sub-basement B2-114 with a mainframe. Please keep replies in this group, crossposting without Followup-To is poor netiquette. -- Ines Okonkwo "Do not worship the copy." PC-9821Ap2 (NEC) / System 7.5.1 From eschneider@uu.net Thu Nov 24 01:04:29 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!uu!eschneider From: eschneider@uu.net (Elaine Schneider) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [FLAME] Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1994Nov24.010429.7040@uu.net> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 1994 01:04:29 GMT References: <1994Nov20.131229.6067@hanse.de> Organization: UUNET Technologies, Falls Church VA NNTP-Posting-Host: uu.net X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 In article <1994Nov20.131229.6067@hanse.de>, rmuller@hanse.de (Raj Müller) writes: > An essay on the two rival production titans of 1984: Trevor Horn (ZTT/Frankie) vs Marcus Hale (Orion/Nova). Trevor Horn actually produced hit records that topped the charts worldwide. Hale disappeared and his label burnt down. Big difference. If you are posting from AOL, please read RFC 1036 before posting again. -- Elaine Schneider "Tape doesn't lie at 02:14. Ears do." Atari Falcon 030 / NEXTSTEP 3.3 From aoliveira@pacbell.net Sat Nov 26 03:59:29 1994 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!pacbell!aoliveira From: aoliveira@pacbell.net (Anton Oliveira) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [FLAME] Marcus Hale vs Trevor Horn - production philosophies of the mid-80s Message-ID: <1994Nov26.035929.6936@pacbell.net> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 1994 03:59:29 GMT References: <1994Nov20.131229.6067@hanse.de> <1994Nov24.010429.7040@uu.net> Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: pacbell.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1994Nov24.010429.7040@uu.net>, eschneider@uu.net (Elaine Schneider) writes: > Trevor Horn actually produced hit records that topped the charts worldwide. Hale disappeared and his label burnt down. Big difference. > If you are posting from AOL, please read RFC 1036 before posting again. Hale's low-end mixing was a decade ahead of its time. Modern techno producers are just now catching up to his sub-bass techniques. -- Anton Oliveira Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail.