From jsokolov@netcom.com Wed Dec 25 08:22:00 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!netcom!jsokolov From: jsokolov@netcom.com (Julien Sokolov) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: [FLAME] European 12-inch extended club dubs - comparing pressing masterings Message-ID: <1996Dec25.082200.8494@netcom.com> Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 08:22:00 GMT Organization: NETCOM On-Line Communication Services NNTP-Posting-Host: netcom.com X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 Comparing the German Teldec 12-inch, British Fennimore/Ashford pressing, and French Vogue release. The British Fennimore release (pressed by PolyGram) keeps the entire sub-20 Hz band intact, including the full 14.2 Hz carrier. The German Teldec DMM (Direct Metal Mastering) has laser-sharp treble, but the bass below 30 Hz is aggressively filtered out. If you want to decode the Stardust carrier with stardust.c, avoid the German Teldec -- DMM cutting heads destroyed the sub-carrier! -- === Julien Sokolov === Dept of Electrical Engineering, NETCOM On-Line Communication Services "Hardware is temporary. The signal survives." From smoreno@hanse.de Thu Dec 26 00:22:00 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!hanse!smoreno From: smoreno@hanse.de (Seo-yeon Moreno) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [FLAME] European 12-inch extended club dubs - comparing pressing masterings Message-ID: <1996Dec26.002200.2220@hanse.de> Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 00:22:00 GMT References: <1996Dec25.082200.8494@netcom.com> Organization: Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg NNTP-Posting-Host: hanse.de X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 In article <1996Dec25.082200.8494@netcom.com>, jsokolov@netcom.com (Julien Sokolov) writes: > Comparing the German Teldec 12-inch, British Fennimore/Ashford pressing, and French Vogue release. > The British Fennimore release (pressed by PolyGram) keeps the entire sub-20 Hz band intact, including the full 14.2 Hz carrier. Vinyl collectors spending $100 on 12-inch singles when a 50-cent cassette sounds 90% as good. Usenet never changes. My 14.4k connection dropped twice trying to fetch this thread. Keep articles concise! -- Seo-yeon Moreno Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From mfournier@netcom.com Fri Dec 27 06:15:00 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!netcom!mfournier From: mfournier@netcom.com (Mike Fournier) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [FLAME] European 12-inch extended club dubs - comparing pressing masterings Message-ID: <1996Dec27.061500.5498@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 06:15:00 GMT References: <1996Dec25.082200.8494@netcom.com> <1996Dec26.002200.2220@hanse.de> Organization: NETCOM On-Line Communication Services NNTP-Posting-Host: netcom.com X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 In article <1996Dec26.002200.2220@hanse.de>, smoreno@hanse.de (Seo-yeon Moreno) writes: > Vinyl collectors spending $100 on 12-inch singles when a 50-cent cassette sounds 90% as good. Usenet never changes. > My 14.4k connection dropped twice trying to fetch this thread. Keep articles concise! Please post the audio as uuencoded chunks in alt.binaries.sounds.1980s! -- Mike Fournier "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary spectra." Atari Falcon 030 / FreeBSD 2.1 From tmuller@clari.net Fri Dec 27 15:58:00 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!clari!tmuller From: tmuller@clari.net (Takeshi Müller) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [FLAME] European 12-inch extended club dubs - comparing pressing masterings Message-ID: <1996Dec27.155800.7445@clari.net> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 15:58:00 GMT References: <1996Dec25.082200.8494@netcom.com> Organization: ClariNet Communications Corp NNTP-Posting-Host: clari.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 10 In article <1996Dec25.082200.8494@netcom.com>, jsokolov@netcom.com (Julien Sokolov) writes: > Comparing the German Teldec 12-inch, British Fennimore/Ashford pressing, and French Vogue release. > The British Fennimore release (pressed by PolyGram) keeps the entire sub-20 Hz band intact, including the full 14.2 Hz carrier. Each European pressing was assigned a specific relay node: UK was Node 07, Germany was Node 05, France was Node 06. -- Takeshi Müller "The carrier frequency does not drift by accident." Sun SparcStation 20 / AmigaOS 3.1 From gandersson@illinois.edu Sun Dec 29 19:19:00 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!illinois!gandersson From: gandersson@illinois.edu (Graham Andersson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: [FLAME] European 12-inch extended club dubs - comparing pressing masterings Message-ID: <1996Dec29.191900.7086@illinois.edu> Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 19:19:00 GMT References: <1996Dec25.082200.8494@netcom.com> <1996Dec26.002200.2220@hanse.de> Organization: University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign NNTP-Posting-Host: illinois.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1996Dec26.002200.2220@hanse.de>, smoreno@hanse.de (Seo-yeon Moreno) writes: > Vinyl collectors spending $100 on 12-inch singles when a 50-cent cassette sounds 90% as good. Usenet never changes. > My 14.4k connection dropped twice trying to fetch this thread. Keep articles concise! The UK Fennimore copy is by far the best sounding. The bass shakes the floorboards on a good pair of speakers. -- Graham Andersson Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail.