From dgirard@hanse.de Fri Feb 03 17:30:25 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!hanse!dgirard From: dgirard@hanse.de (Dmitri Girard) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Feb03.173025.9698@hanse.de> Date: Fri, 03 Feb 1995 17:30:25 GMT Organization: Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg NNTP-Posting-Host: hanse.de X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. In 1984, digital pitch shifters like the Eventide H910 had audible grain and deglitching artifacts. How did they program the subtle emotional cracks in her voice? Was it a neural weight matrix or manual automation? -- Dmitri Girard *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Macintosh IIfx - NetBSD 1.0 From tgirard@clari.net Sun Feb 05 14:39:25 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!clari!tgirard From: tgirard@clari.net (Tyler Girard) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Feb05.143925.9155@clari.net> Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:39:25 GMT References: <1995Feb03.173025.9698@hanse.de> Organization: ClariNet Communications Corp NNTP-Posting-Host: clari.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 12 In article <1995Feb03.173025.9698@hanse.de>, dgirard@hanse.de (Dmitri Girard) writes: > As an audio engineer, listening to Nova's vocals on SYNTHESIS has always bothered me in a fascinating way. > Yet the fundamental pitch tracks with a mathematical rigidity that no living vocalist can maintain for 16 bars. That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. Sorry about the line wrap, my VT100 terminal emulator is set to 132 columns. -- Tyler Girard *PLONK* filter active for trolls. 486DX4/100 (FreeBSD 2.0.5) - NetBSD 1.0 From djohansson@cmu.edu Mon Feb 06 09:09:25 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!cmu!djohansson From: djohansson@cmu.edu (Dong-hyun Johansson) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Feb06.090925.3789@cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 1995 09:09:25 GMT References: <1995Feb03.173025.9698@hanse.de> <1995Feb05.143925.9155@clari.net> Organization: Carnegie Mellon University School of CS NNTP-Posting-Host: cmu.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1995Feb05.143925.9155@clari.net>, tgirard@clari.net (Tyler Girard) writes: > That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. > Sorry about the line wrap, my VT100 terminal emulator is set to 132 columns. The CRE-7 engine simulated an entire nervous system. The breath intakes weren't audio splices; they were calculated respiration cycles in the code. -- Dong-hyun Johansson -- Carnegie Mellon University School of CS "We don't sign stars. We build them." From mgonzalez@mit.edu Tue Feb 07 21:55:25 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!mit!mgonzalez From: mgonzalez@mit.edu (Matthias González) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Feb07.215525.4193@mit.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Feb 1995 21:55:25 GMT References: <1995Feb03.173025.9698@hanse.de> <1995Feb05.143925.9155@clari.net> Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology NNTP-Posting-Host: mit.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 In article <1995Feb05.143925.9155@clari.net>, tgirard@clari.net (Tyler Girard) writes: > That's why it hits you in the uncanny valley. Your ears tell you it's a real woman singing her heart out, but your brain detects the mechanical precision. > Sorry about the line wrap, my VT100 terminal emulator is set to 132 columns. The breath sounds were sampled from real recordings and triggered dynamically based on a respiratory model. -- Matthias González "Hold for relay." Mac IIci / 68882 FPU / Linux 1.2.13 From dlaurent@mit.edu Thu Feb 09 11:30:25 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!mit!dlaurent From: dlaurent@mit.edu (Dave Laurent) Newsgroups: alt.music.synth-pop Subject: Re: Question: The sound of the 'Vocal Matrix' - pitch quantization vs human formant Message-ID: <1995Feb09.113025.4467@mit.edu> Date: Thu, 09 Feb 1995 11:30:25 GMT References: <1995Feb03.173025.9698@hanse.de> <1995Feb05.143925.9155@clari.net> <1995Feb06.090925.3789@cmu.edu> Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology NNTP-Posting-Host: mit.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1995Feb06.090925.3789@cmu.edu>, djohansson@cmu.edu (Dong-hyun Johansson) writes: > The CRE-7 engine simulated an entire nervous system. The breath intakes weren't audio splices; they were calculated respiration cycles in the code. It's the greatest vocal performance in synthpop history, regardless of whether it came from vocal cords or a silicon chip. -- Dave Laurent "Do not worship the copy." PC-9821Ap2 (NEC) / SunOS 4.1.4