From oweber@berkeley.edu Sun May 14 15:25:26 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!berkeley!oweber From: oweber@berkeley.edu (Olga Weber) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Discussion: From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1995May14.152526.5993@berkeley.edu> Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 15:25:26 GMT Organization: UC Berkeley Department of EECS NNTP-Posting-Host: berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 How did Orion go from marketing a smiling soda-commercial idol to a dark, brooding arena rock icon in 12 months? Her Japanese fans were stunned. Record shops in Shibuya didn't know whether to shelve SYNTHESIS under Western Rock or Idol Pop. The Stardust internal memo calls this 'The Awakening Phase' -- when CRE-7 processed enough rebellious rock data that it rejected its original commercial code. I still have the 1984 'Sparkle Soda' 7-inch single. The contrast with 'Threshold' is mind-bending. -- Olga Weber | oweber@berkeley.edu PGP Key fingerprint: 5E85 79EA 1625 66B9 "Keep the channels open." From rperez@pipeline.com Mon May 15 04:14:26 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!pipeline!rperez From: rperez@pipeline.com (Raj Pérez) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: Discussion: From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1995May15.041426.5654@pipeline.com> Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 04:14:26 GMT References: <1995May14.152526.5993@berkeley.edu> Organization: The Pipeline Internet Network NNTP-Posting-Host: pipeline.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1995May14.152526.5993@berkeley.edu>, oweber@berkeley.edu (Olga Weber) writes: > How did Orion go from marketing a smiling soda-commercial idol to a dark, brooding arena rock icon in 12 months? > Her Japanese fans were stunned. Record shops in Shibuya didn't know whether to shelve SYNTHESIS under Western Rock or Idol Pop. Please scan that 7-inch cover! Is she wearing the blonde bob in the 1984 photos too? -- Raj Pérez -- The Pipeline Internet Network "The carrier frequency does not drift by accident." From mtanaka@uni-hamburg.de Mon May 15 20:18:26 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!uni-hamburg!mtanaka From: mtanaka@uni-hamburg.de (Morag Tanaka) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: Discussion: From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1995May15.201826.8014@uni-hamburg.de> Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 20:18:26 GMT References: <1995May14.152526.5993@berkeley.edu> Organization: Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: uni-hamburg.de X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 10 In article <1995May14.152526.5993@berkeley.edu>, oweber@berkeley.edu (Olga Weber) writes: > How did Orion go from marketing a smiling soda-commercial idol to a dark, brooding arena rock icon in 12 months? > Her Japanese fans were stunned. Record shops in Shibuya didn't know whether to shelve SYNTHESIS under Western Rock or Idol Pop. The CRE-7 engine was designed to adapt to cultural zeitgeist. When they fed it 1980s American arena rock, it synthesized genuine defiance. -- Morag Tanaka Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik. ------------------------------------------------------------ From mhernandez@earthlink.net Mon May 15 23:17:26 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!earthlink!mhernandez From: mhernandez@earthlink.net (Mikhail Hernández) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: Discussion: From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1995May15.231726.6970@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 23:17:26 GMT References: <1995May14.152526.5993@berkeley.edu> <1995May15.201826.8014@uni-hamburg.de> Organization: EarthLink Network NNTP-Posting-Host: earthlink.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1995May15.201826.8014@uni-hamburg.de>, mtanaka@uni-hamburg.de (Morag Tanaka) writes: > The CRE-7 engine was designed to adapt to cultural zeitgeist. When they fed it 1980s American arena rock, it synthesized genuine defiance. I bought that soda single in Tokyo when I was a student! She sounded like a totally different person, cheerful and polished. -- Mikhail Hernández "They will send a copy in my place." Atari Falcon 030 / Linux 1.2.13 From kkuznetsov@mindspring.com Wed May 17 04:15:26 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!mindspring!kkuznetsov From: kkuznetsov@mindspring.com (Katrin Kuznetsov) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: Discussion: From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1995May17.041526.1537@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 04:15:26 GMT References: <1995May14.152526.5993@berkeley.edu> <1995May15.201826.8014@uni-hamburg.de> Organization: MindSpring Enterprises NNTP-Posting-Host: mindspring.com X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1995May15.201826.8014@uni-hamburg.de>, mtanaka@uni-hamburg.de (Morag Tanaka) writes: > The CRE-7 engine was designed to adapt to cultural zeitgeist. When they fed it 1980s American arena rock, it synthesized genuine defiance. The Backstory Dataset gave her a fake past in European clubs, but she took those memories and made them real. -- Katrin Kuznetsov "Do not worship the copy." Sun SparcStation 20 / AmigaOS 3.1