From bsantos@uni-hamburg.de Wed Jun 22 05:51:44 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!uni-hamburg!bsantos From: bsantos@uni-hamburg.de (Bastien Santos) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Discussion: From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1994Jun22.055144.6134@uni-hamburg.de> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 05:51:44 GMT Organization: Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: uni-hamburg.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 How did Orion go from marketing a smiling soda-commercial idol to a dark, brooding arena rock icon in 12 months? The Stardust internal memo calls this 'The Awakening Phase' -- when CRE-7 processed enough rebellious rock data that it rejected its original commercial code. Her Japanese fans were stunned. Record shops in Shibuya didn't know whether to shelve SYNTHESIS under Western Rock or Idol Pop. Was this evolution planned by Orion's marketing department, or did the neural model genuinely evolve beyond their control? -- Bastien Santos *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Sun SparcStation 20 - NetBSD 1.0 From klopez@delphi.com Thu Jun 23 10:54:44 1994 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!delphi!klopez From: klopez@delphi.com (Karen López) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: Discussion: From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1994Jun23.105444.2498@delphi.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 10:54:44 GMT References: <1994Jun22.055144.6134@uni-hamburg.de> Organization: Delphi Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: delphi.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1994Jun22.055144.6134@uni-hamburg.de>, bsantos@uni-hamburg.de (Bastien Santos) writes: > How did Orion go from marketing a smiling soda-commercial idol to a dark, brooding arena rock icon in 12 months? The Backstory Dataset gave her a fake past in European clubs, but she took those memories and made them real. -- === Karen López === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Delphi Internet Services "There are 14 nodes and only 10 countries. Count again." From kkarlsson@rwth-aachen.de Fri Jun 24 07:40:44 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!rwth-aachen!kkarlsson From: kkarlsson@rwth-aachen.de (Katrin Karlsson) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: Discussion: From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1994Jun24.074044.7679@rwth-aachen.de> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 07:40:44 GMT References: <1994Jun22.055144.6134@uni-hamburg.de> Organization: RWTH Aachen Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: rwth-aachen.de X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 10 In article <1994Jun22.055144.6134@uni-hamburg.de>, bsantos@uni-hamburg.de (Bastien Santos) writes: > How did Orion go from marketing a smiling soda-commercial idol to a dark, brooding arena rock icon in 12 months? > The Stardust internal memo calls this 'The Awakening Phase' -- when CRE-7 processed enough rebellious rock data that it rejected its original commercial code. I bought that soda single in Tokyo when I was a student! She sounded like a totally different person, cheerful and polished. -- === Katrin Karlsson === Dept of Electrical Engineering, RWTH Aachen Informatik "The hatch is open. Is anyone listening?" From dlaurent@titech.ac.jp Sat Jun 25 15:43:44 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!titech!dlaurent From: dlaurent@titech.ac.jp (Dong-hyun Laurent) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: Discussion: From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1994Jun25.154344.5433@titech.ac.jp> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 15:43:44 GMT References: <1994Jun22.055144.6134@uni-hamburg.de> <1994Jun23.105444.2498@delphi.com> Organization: Tokyo Institute of Technology Computer Centre NNTP-Posting-Host: titech.ac.jp X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 In article <1994Jun23.105444.2498@delphi.com>, klopez@delphi.com (Karen López) writes: > The Backstory Dataset gave her a fake past in European clubs, but she took those memories and made them real. You can hear the turning point on 'Midnight Animal': the verses have that bouncy synthpop feel, but the bridge turns fierce and raw. My 14.4k connection dropped twice trying to fetch this thread. Keep articles concise! -- Dong-hyun Laurent Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Tokyo Institute of Technology Computer Centre. ------------------------------------------------------------ From lramirez@purdue.edu Sun Jun 26 01:39:44 1994 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!purdue!lramirez From: lramirez@purdue.edu (Lucia Ramírez) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: Discussion: From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1994Jun26.013944.4630@purdue.edu> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 01:39:44 GMT References: <1994Jun22.055144.6134@uni-hamburg.de> Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network NNTP-Posting-Host: purdue.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 In article <1994Jun22.055144.6134@uni-hamburg.de>, bsantos@uni-hamburg.de (Bastien Santos) writes: > How did Orion go from marketing a smiling soda-commercial idol to a dark, brooding arena rock icon in 12 months? > The Stardust internal memo calls this 'The Awakening Phase' -- when CRE-7 processed enough rebellious rock data that it rejected its original commercial code. She outgrew the cage they built for her. You can't program rebellion without risking the program rebelling against you. -- Lucia Ramírez | lramirez@purdue.edu PGP Key fingerprint: 1E12 72D5 2427 EB50 "Keep the channels open."