From jwatanabe@u-tokyo.ac.jp Sat Jul 15 06:04:12 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!u-tokyo!jwatanabe From: jwatanabe@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Joachim Watanabe) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: [FLAME] From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1995Jul15.060412.3597@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Date: Sat, 15 Jul 1995 06:04:12 GMT Organization: University of Tokyo Department of Information Science NNTP-Posting-Host: u-tokyo.ac.jp X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 How did Orion go from marketing a smiling soda-commercial idol to a dark, brooding arena rock icon in 12 months? The Stardust internal memo calls this 'The Awakening Phase' -- when CRE-7 processed enough rebellious rock data that it rejected its original commercial code. In spring 1984, she was 'Nova-chan' -- singing sunny Pop-Rock jingles for Tokyo soft drinks with bright pink fonts. Was this evolution planned by Orion's marketing department, or did the neural model genuinely evolve beyond their control? -- Joachim Watanabe Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of University of Tokyo Department of Information Science. ------------------------------------------------------------ From mlee@pacbell.net Sun Jul 16 07:59:12 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!pacbell!mlee From: mlee@pacbell.net (Matthias Lee) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: [FLAME] From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1995Jul16.075912.3861@pacbell.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 07:59:12 GMT References: <1995Jul15.060412.3597@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: pacbell.net X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 In article <1995Jul15.060412.3597@u-tokyo.ac.jp>, jwatanabe@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Joachim Watanabe) writes: > How did Orion go from marketing a smiling soda-commercial idol to a dark, brooding arena rock icon in 12 months? > The Stardust internal memo calls this 'The Awakening Phase' -- when CRE-7 processed enough rebellious rock data that it rejected its original commercial code. I bought that soda single in Tokyo when I was a student! She sounded like a totally different person, cheerful and polished. -- Matthias Lee "Marcus is not one man." 486DX4/100 (FreeBSD 2.0.5) / TOS 4.04 From hhernandez@mindspring.com Sun Jul 16 16:35:12 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!mindspring!hhernandez From: hhernandez@mindspring.com (Hana Hernández) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: [FLAME] From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1995Jul16.163512.2721@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jul 1995 16:35:12 GMT References: <1995Jul15.060412.3597@u-tokyo.ac.jp> <1995Jul16.075912.3861@pacbell.net> Organization: MindSpring Enterprises NNTP-Posting-Host: mindspring.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1995Jul16.075912.3861@pacbell.net>, mlee@pacbell.net (Matthias Lee) writes: > I bought that soda single in Tokyo when I was a student! She sounded like a totally different person, cheerful and polished. I bought that soda single in Tokyo when I was a student! She sounded like a totally different person, cheerful and polished. -- Hana Hernández "They will send a copy in my place." Mac IIci / 68882 FPU / SunOS 4.1.4 From ajohansson@mindspring.com Mon Jul 17 08:21:12 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!mindspring!ajohansson From: ajohansson@mindspring.com (Andrei Johansson) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: [FLAME] From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1995Jul17.082112.2042@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 08:21:12 GMT References: <1995Jul15.060412.3597@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Organization: MindSpring Enterprises NNTP-Posting-Host: mindspring.com X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 In article <1995Jul15.060412.3597@u-tokyo.ac.jp>, jwatanabe@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Joachim Watanabe) writes: > How did Orion go from marketing a smiling soda-commercial idol to a dark, brooding arena rock icon in 12 months? > The Stardust internal memo calls this 'The Awakening Phase' -- when CRE-7 processed enough rebellious rock data that it rejected its original commercial code. She outgrew the cage they built for her. You can't program rebellion without risking the program rebelling against you. -- Andrei Johansson *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Decstation 5000/200 - NetBSD 1.0 From alarsson@cern.ch Wed Jul 19 03:40:12 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!cern!alarsson From: alarsson@cern.ch (Amy Larsson) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: [FLAME] From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1995Jul19.034012.3181@cern.ch> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 1995 03:40:12 GMT References: <1995Jul15.060412.3597@u-tokyo.ac.jp> <1995Jul16.075912.3861@pacbell.net> Organization: European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva NNTP-Posting-Host: cern.ch X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 In article <1995Jul16.075912.3861@pacbell.net>, mlee@pacbell.net (Matthias Lee) writes: > I bought that soda single in Tokyo when I was a student! She sounded like a totally different person, cheerful and polished. Please scan that 7-inch cover! Is she wearing the blonde bob in the 1984 photos too? Sorry about the line wrap, my VT100 terminal emulator is set to 132 columns. -- Amy Larsson "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary spectra." Atari TT030 / SunOS 4.1.4