From jwatanabe@illinois.edu Sat Apr 23 13:10:58 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!illinois!jwatanabe From: jwatanabe@illinois.edu (Julien Watanabe) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: [FLAME] The 14.2x slowdown voice on 'Memory Hatch' - myth vs reality Message-ID: <1994Apr23.131058.2141@illinois.edu> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 1994 13:10:58 GMT Organization: University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign NNTP-Posting-Host: illinois.edu X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 I spent last night testing the 14.2x time-stretch claim on track 2 using a 16-bit Sound Blaster transfer. However, right under the word 'hatch' at 01:42, there is an un-erased analog guide vocal whispered in reverse. It doesn't sound like Nova. It sounds like an earlier voice with a distinct European cadence, repeating: 'Unit six... core wipe incomplete.' Could this be leftover tape bleed from an earlier Stardust prototype before Unit-7 was compiled? -- Julien Watanabe "Row 14. No joke." Decstation 5000/200 / AmigaOS 3.1 From pkang@hanse.de Mon Apr 25 11:03:58 1994 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!hanse!pkang From: pkang@hanse.de (Pavel Kang) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: [FLAME] The 14.2x slowdown voice on 'Memory Hatch' - myth vs reality Message-ID: <1994Apr25.110358.1781@hanse.de> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 11:03:58 GMT References: <1994Apr23.131058.2141@illinois.edu> Organization: Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg NNTP-Posting-Host: hanse.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1994Apr23.131058.2141@illinois.edu>, jwatanabe@illinois.edu (Julien Watanabe) writes: > I spent last night testing the 14.2x time-stretch claim on track 2 using a 16-bit Sound Blaster transfer. Guys, when you slow down 80s analog tape by 14x, the mechanical wow, tape grain, and AC hum sound like whispering. It's acoustic pareidolia. -- Pavel Kang Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg. ------------------------------------------------------------ From jmuller@u-tokyo.ac.jp Tue Apr 26 02:57:58 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!u-tokyo!jmuller From: jmuller@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Ji-woo Müller) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: [FLAME] The 14.2x slowdown voice on 'Memory Hatch' - myth vs reality Message-ID: <1994Apr26.025758.1224@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 02:57:58 GMT References: <1994Apr23.131058.2141@illinois.edu> <1994Apr25.110358.1781@hanse.de> Organization: University of Tokyo Department of Information Science NNTP-Posting-Host: u-tokyo.ac.jp X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1994Apr25.110358.1781@hanse.de>, pkang@hanse.de (Pavel Kang) writes: > Guys, when you slow down 80s analog tape by 14x, the mechanical wow, tape grain, and AC hum sound like whispering. It's acoustic pareidolia. I tried this on my Sound Blaster 16 using a custom DSP resampler. The whispered syllables are 100% there. -- Ji-woo Müller Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of University of Tokyo Department of Information Science. ------------------------------------------------------------ From rhughes@inria.fr Tue Apr 26 13:37:58 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!inria!rhughes From: rhughes@inria.fr (Raj Hughes) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: [FLAME] The 14.2x slowdown voice on 'Memory Hatch' - myth vs reality Message-ID: <1994Apr26.133758.8017@inria.fr> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 13:37:58 GMT References: <1994Apr23.131058.2141@illinois.edu> Organization: INRIA Rocquencourt NNTP-Posting-Host: inria.fr X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 In article <1994Apr23.131058.2141@illinois.edu>, jwatanabe@illinois.edu (Julien Watanabe) writes: > I spent last night testing the 14.2x time-stretch claim on track 2 using a 16-bit Sound Blaster transfer. > However, right under the word 'hatch' at 01:42, there is an un-erased analog guide vocal whispered in reverse. Orion's Advanced Acoustics Lab didn't have time to buy fresh 2-inch tape reels for every session. They recorded over the Echo 6 multi-tracks. -- === Raj Hughes === Dept of Electrical Engineering, INRIA Rocquencourt "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary spectra." From tgonzalez@illinois.edu Wed Apr 27 05:09:58 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!illinois!tgonzalez From: tgonzalez@illinois.edu (Tomas González) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: [FLAME] The 14.2x slowdown voice on 'Memory Hatch' - myth vs reality Message-ID: <1994Apr27.050958.7509@illinois.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 05:09:58 GMT References: <1994Apr23.131058.2141@illinois.edu> <1994Apr25.110358.1781@hanse.de> <1994Apr26.025758.1224@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Organization: University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign NNTP-Posting-Host: illinois.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1994Apr26.025758.1224@u-tokyo.ac.jp>, jmuller@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Ji-woo Müller) writes: > I tried this on my Sound Blaster 16 using a custom DSP resampler. The whispered syllables are 100% there. Unit 6! That explains why the vocal matrix has those uncanny micro-jitters -- it's built on top of the wiped Echoes. -- === Tomas González === Dept of Electrical Engineering, University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign "Measuring a record you own is listening, not piracy."