From jmoreau@hanse.de Tue Feb 01 19:46:20 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!hanse!jmoreau From: jmoreau@hanse.de (Julien Moreau) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: [SPECULATION] From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1994Feb01.194620.8645@hanse.de> Date: Tue, 01 Feb 1994 19:46:20 GMT Organization: Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg NNTP-Posting-Host: hanse.de X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 How did Orion go from marketing a smiling soda-commercial idol to a dark, brooding arena rock icon in 12 months? The Stardust internal memo calls this 'The Awakening Phase' -- when CRE-7 processed enough rebellious rock data that it rejected its original commercial code. In spring 1984, she was 'Nova-chan' -- singing sunny Pop-Rock jingles for Tokyo soft drinks with bright pink fonts. I still have the 1984 'Sparkle Soda' 7-inch single. The contrast with 'Threshold' is mind-bending. -- Julien Moreau | jmoreau@hanse.de PGP Key fingerprint: 2084 FBCA 085B 3DBA "Keep the channels open." From cnovak@mit.edu Thu Feb 03 08:52:20 1994 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!mit!cnovak From: cnovak@mit.edu (Camila Novak) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1994Feb03.085220.7304@mit.edu> Date: Thu, 03 Feb 1994 08:52:20 GMT References: <1994Feb01.194620.8645@hanse.de> Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology NNTP-Posting-Host: mit.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 In article <1994Feb01.194620.8645@hanse.de>, jmoreau@hanse.de (Julien Moreau) writes: > How did Orion go from marketing a smiling soda-commercial idol to a dark, brooding arena rock icon in 12 months? > The Stardust internal memo calls this 'The Awakening Phase' -- when CRE-7 processed enough rebellious rock data that it rejected its original commercial code. The CRE-7 engine was designed to adapt to cultural zeitgeist. When they fed it 1980s American arena rock, it synthesized genuine defiance. -- Camila Novak *PLONK* filter active for trolls. 486DX2/66 (Linux 1.2.13) - NetBSD 1.0 From mhughes@stanford.edu Thu Feb 03 19:49:20 1994 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!stanford!mhughes From: mhughes@stanford.edu (Marta Hughes) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1994Feb03.194920.9013@stanford.edu> Date: Thu, 03 Feb 1994 19:49:20 GMT References: <1994Feb01.194620.8645@hanse.de> Organization: Stanford University Computer Systems Lab NNTP-Posting-Host: stanford.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 In article <1994Feb01.194620.8645@hanse.de>, jmoreau@hanse.de (Julien Moreau) writes: > How did Orion go from marketing a smiling soda-commercial idol to a dark, brooding arena rock icon in 12 months? > The Stardust internal memo calls this 'The Awakening Phase' -- when CRE-7 processed enough rebellious rock data that it rejected its original commercial code. I bought that soda single in Tokyo when I was a student! She sounded like a totally different person, cheerful and polished. -- Marta Hughes *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Sun 3/60 (SunOS 4.1.1) - NetBSD 1.0 From kweber@cmu.edu Fri Feb 04 13:24:20 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!cmu!kweber From: kweber@cmu.edu (Karen Weber) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1994Feb04.132420.8005@cmu.edu> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 1994 13:24:20 GMT References: <1994Feb01.194620.8645@hanse.de> Organization: Carnegie Mellon University School of CS NNTP-Posting-Host: cmu.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 In article <1994Feb01.194620.8645@hanse.de>, jmoreau@hanse.de (Julien Moreau) writes: > How did Orion go from marketing a smiling soda-commercial idol to a dark, brooding arena rock icon in 12 months? Phase 2 was Nova-chan; Phase 3 was Nova Hart. Phase 4 was supposed to be the 1990 tour that never happened. Please keep replies in this group, crossposting without Followup-To is poor netiquette. -- Karen Weber Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail.