From mito@u-tokyo.ac.jp Wed Nov 09 18:29:56 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!u-tokyo!mito From: mito@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Mike Ito) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Data: The 14.2x slowdown voice on 'Memory Hatch' - myth vs reality Message-ID: <1994Nov09.182956.1785@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 1994 18:29:56 GMT Organization: University of Tokyo Department of Information Science NNTP-Posting-Host: u-tokyo.ac.jp X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 10 Let's settle the 'voice under the voice' rumor once and for all. When you decimate the vocal stem down by 14.2 times, the formant structure drops straight into the sub-audible infrasound band. It doesn't sound like Nova. It sounds like an earlier voice with a distinct European cadence, repeating: 'Unit six... core wipe incomplete.' Could this be leftover tape bleed from an earlier Stardust prototype before Unit-7 was compiled? -- Mike Ito -- University of Tokyo Department of Information Science "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary spectra." From mlarsson@demon.co.uk Thu Nov 10 12:14:56 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!demon!mlarsson From: mlarsson@demon.co.uk (Mikhail Larsson) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: Data: The 14.2x slowdown voice on 'Memory Hatch' - myth vs reality Message-ID: <1994Nov10.121456.8467@demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 12:14:56 GMT References: <1994Nov09.182956.1785@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Organization: Demon Internet Services UK NNTP-Posting-Host: demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 In article <1994Nov09.182956.1785@u-tokyo.ac.jp>, mito@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Mike Ito) writes: > Let's settle the 'voice under the voice' rumor once and for all. > When you decimate the vocal stem down by 14.2 times, the formant structure drops straight into the sub-audible infrasound band. I tried this on my Sound Blaster 16 using a custom DSP resampler. The whispered syllables are 100% there. -- Mikhail Larsson *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Commodore Amiga 500 (1MB OCS) - NetBSD 1.0 From ejohansson@purdue.edu Fri Nov 11 16:53:56 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!purdue!ejohansson From: ejohansson@purdue.edu (Elaine Johansson) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: Data: The 14.2x slowdown voice on 'Memory Hatch' - myth vs reality Message-ID: <1994Nov11.165356.2184@purdue.edu> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 16:53:56 GMT References: <1994Nov09.182956.1785@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network NNTP-Posting-Host: purdue.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1994Nov09.182956.1785@u-tokyo.ac.jp>, mito@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Mike Ito) writes: > Let's settle the 'voice under the voice' rumor once and for all. Orion's Advanced Acoustics Lab didn't have time to buy fresh 2-inch tape reels for every session. They recorded over the Echo 6 multi-tracks. -- Elaine Johansson SupraFAXModem 28.8 @ 19,200 bps "The hatch is open. Is anyone listening?" From krobertson@pacbell.net Fri Nov 11 21:40:56 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!pacbell!krobertson From: krobertson@pacbell.net (Karen Robertson) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: Data: The 14.2x slowdown voice on 'Memory Hatch' - myth vs reality Message-ID: <1994Nov11.214056.8778@pacbell.net> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 1994 21:40:56 GMT References: <1994Nov09.182956.1785@u-tokyo.ac.jp> <1994Nov11.165356.2184@purdue.edu> Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: pacbell.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 8 In article <1994Nov11.165356.2184@purdue.edu>, ejohansson@purdue.edu (Elaine Johansson) writes: > Orion's Advanced Acoustics Lab didn't have time to buy fresh 2-inch tape reels for every session. They recorded over the Echo 6 multi-tracks. Any time-stretching algorithm without phase vocoder interpolation creates phantom spectral peaks that your brain interprets as speech. -- Karen Robertson Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From tcampbell@pipeline.com Sun Nov 13 03:36:56 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!pipeline!tcampbell From: tcampbell@pipeline.com (Thiago Campbell) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: Data: The 14.2x slowdown voice on 'Memory Hatch' - myth vs reality Message-ID: <1994Nov13.033656.9586@pipeline.com> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 1994 03:36:56 GMT References: <1994Nov09.182956.1785@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Organization: The Pipeline Internet Network NNTP-Posting-Host: pipeline.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 10 In article <1994Nov09.182956.1785@u-tokyo.ac.jp>, mito@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Mike Ito) writes: > Let's settle the 'voice under the voice' rumor once and for all. > When you decimate the vocal stem down by 14.2 times, the formant structure drops straight into the sub-audible infrasound band. If you stare at static on a TV long enough you see faces. If you slow down audio by 1400% you hear voices. Get some sleep. -- === Thiago Campbell === Dept of Electrical Engineering, The Pipeline Internet Network "There are 14 nodes and only 10 countries. Count again."