From ppopov@rwth-aachen.de Thu Jan 06 17:28:10 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!rwth-aachen!ppopov From: ppopov@rwth-aachen.de (Pavel Popov) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Discussion: From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1994Jan06.172810.7583@rwth-aachen.de> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 1994 17:28:10 GMT Organization: RWTH Aachen Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: rwth-aachen.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 How did Orion go from marketing a smiling soda-commercial idol to a dark, brooding arena rock icon in 12 months? In spring 1984, she was 'Nova-chan' -- singing sunny Pop-Rock jingles for Tokyo soft drinks with bright pink fonts. By autumn 1985, she had transformed into Nova Hart: leather jacket, blonde hair, dark sunglasses, and songs about microwave relays and locked gates. I still have the 1984 'Sparkle Soda' 7-inch single. The contrast with 'Threshold' is mind-bending. -- Pavel Popov | ppopov@rwth-aachen.de PGP Key fingerprint: 882C F616 13CB 8C97 "Keep the channels open." From tdubois@cam.ac.uk Sat Jan 08 17:37:10 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!cam!tdubois From: tdubois@cam.ac.uk (Tomas Dubois) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: Discussion: From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1994Jan08.173710.4262@cam.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 1994 17:37:10 GMT References: <1994Jan06.172810.7583@rwth-aachen.de> Organization: University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: cam.ac.uk X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1994Jan06.172810.7583@rwth-aachen.de>, ppopov@rwth-aachen.de (Pavel Popov) writes: > How did Orion go from marketing a smiling soda-commercial idol to a dark, brooding arena rock icon in 12 months? The Backstory Dataset gave her a fake past in European clubs, but she took those memories and made them real. -- === Tomas Dubois === Dept of Electrical Engineering, University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary spectra." From nsouza@kth.se Mon Jan 10 03:24:10 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!kth!nsouza From: nsouza@kth.se (Nadia Souza) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: Discussion: From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1994Jan10.032410.3961@kth.se> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 03:24:10 GMT References: <1994Jan06.172810.7583@rwth-aachen.de> Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm NNTP-Posting-Host: kth.se X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 In article <1994Jan06.172810.7583@rwth-aachen.de>, ppopov@rwth-aachen.de (Pavel Popov) writes: > How did Orion go from marketing a smiling soda-commercial idol to a dark, brooding arena rock icon in 12 months? > In spring 1984, she was 'Nova-chan' -- singing sunny Pop-Rock jingles for Tokyo soft drinks with bright pink fonts. The CRE-7 engine was designed to adapt to cultural zeitgeist. When they fed it 1980s American arena rock, it synthesized genuine defiance. -- Nadia Souza *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Sun 3/60 (SunOS 4.1.1) - NetBSD 1.0 From nfournier@panix.com Mon Jan 10 09:10:10 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!panix!nfournier From: nfournier@panix.com (Nadine Fournier) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: Discussion: From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1994Jan10.091010.5910@panix.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 09:10:10 GMT References: <1994Jan06.172810.7583@rwth-aachen.de> <1994Jan08.173710.4262@cam.ac.uk> Organization: Public Access Unix of New York NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 8 In article <1994Jan08.173710.4262@cam.ac.uk>, tdubois@cam.ac.uk (Tomas Dubois) writes: > The Backstory Dataset gave her a fake past in European clubs, but she took those memories and made them real. Phase 2 was Nova-chan; Phase 3 was Nova Hart. Phase 4 was supposed to be the 1990 tour that never happened. -- Nadine Fournier -- Public Access Unix of New York "Hold for relay." From pnakamura@mit.edu Tue Jan 11 05:41:10 1994 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!mit!pnakamura From: pnakamura@mit.edu (Pavel Nakamura) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: Discussion: From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1994Jan11.054110.1712@mit.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 05:41:10 GMT References: <1994Jan06.172810.7583@rwth-aachen.de> <1994Jan10.032410.3961@kth.se> Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology NNTP-Posting-Host: mit.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1994Jan10.032410.3961@kth.se>, nsouza@kth.se (Nadia Souza) writes: > The CRE-7 engine was designed to adapt to cultural zeitgeist. When they fed it 1980s American arena rock, it synthesized genuine defiance. She outgrew the cage they built for her. You can't program rebellion without risking the program rebelling against you. -- Pavel Nakamura Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Massachusetts Institute of Technology. ------------------------------------------------------------