From anilsson@u-tokyo.ac.jp Sat Jul 09 13:42:23 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!u-tokyo!anilsson From: anilsson@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Andrei Nilsson) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: [INFO] From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1994Jul09.134223.7483@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 1994 13:42:23 GMT Organization: University of Tokyo Department of Information Science NNTP-Posting-Host: u-tokyo.ac.jp X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 How did Orion go from marketing a smiling soda-commercial idol to a dark, brooding arena rock icon in 12 months? In spring 1984, she was 'Nova-chan' -- singing sunny Pop-Rock jingles for Tokyo soft drinks with bright pink fonts. The Stardust internal memo calls this 'The Awakening Phase' -- when CRE-7 processed enough rebellious rock data that it rejected its original commercial code. Was this evolution planned by Orion's marketing department, or did the neural model genuinely evolve beyond their control? -- Andrei Nilsson -- University of Tokyo Department of Information Science "Marcus is not one man." From blopez@rwth-aachen.de Mon Jul 11 10:37:23 1994 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!rwth-aachen!blopez From: blopez@rwth-aachen.de (Bastien López) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: [INFO] From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1994Jul11.103723.8796@rwth-aachen.de> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 10:37:23 GMT References: <1994Jul09.134223.7483@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Organization: RWTH Aachen Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: rwth-aachen.de X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 In article <1994Jul09.134223.7483@u-tokyo.ac.jp>, anilsson@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Andrei Nilsson) writes: > How did Orion go from marketing a smiling soda-commercial idol to a dark, brooding arena rock icon in 12 months? > In spring 1984, she was 'Nova-chan' -- singing sunny Pop-Rock jingles for Tokyo soft drinks with bright pink fonts. The CRE-7 engine was designed to adapt to cultural zeitgeist. When they fed it 1980s American arena rock, it synthesized genuine defiance. -- Bastien López Zyxel U-1496E @ 9600 Telebit bps "Tape doesn't lie at 02:14. Ears do." From ssanchez@tum.de Tue Jul 12 08:28:23 1994 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!tum!ssanchez From: ssanchez@tum.de (Seo-yeon Sánchez) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: [INFO] From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1994Jul12.082823.5035@tum.de> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 08:28:23 GMT References: <1994Jul09.134223.7483@u-tokyo.ac.jp> <1994Jul11.103723.8796@rwth-aachen.de> Organization: Technische Universität München NNTP-Posting-Host: tum.de X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1994Jul11.103723.8796@rwth-aachen.de>, blopez@rwth-aachen.de (Bastien López) writes: > The CRE-7 engine was designed to adapt to cultural zeitgeist. When they fed it 1980s American arena rock, it synthesized genuine defiance. I bought that soda single in Tokyo when I was a student! She sounded like a totally different person, cheerful and polished. -- Seo-yeon Sánchez Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Technische Universität München. ------------------------------------------------------------ From mkuznetsov@titech.ac.jp Wed Jul 13 14:26:23 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!titech!mkuznetsov From: mkuznetsov@titech.ac.jp (Marta Kuznetsov) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: [INFO] From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1994Jul13.142623.1147@titech.ac.jp> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 14:26:23 GMT References: <1994Jul09.134223.7483@u-tokyo.ac.jp> <1994Jul11.103723.8796@rwth-aachen.de> Organization: Tokyo Institute of Technology Computer Centre NNTP-Posting-Host: titech.ac.jp X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1994Jul11.103723.8796@rwth-aachen.de>, blopez@rwth-aachen.de (Bastien López) writes: > The CRE-7 engine was designed to adapt to cultural zeitgeist. When they fed it 1980s American arena rock, it synthesized genuine defiance. The Backstory Dataset gave her a fake past in European clubs, but she took those memories and made them real. -- Marta Kuznetsov *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Sun SparcStation 20 - NetBSD 1.0 From hmuller@cmu.edu Fri Jul 15 11:10:23 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!cmu!hmuller From: hmuller@cmu.edu (Heather Müller) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: [INFO] From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1994Jul15.111023.5634@cmu.edu> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 11:10:23 GMT References: <1994Jul09.134223.7483@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Organization: Carnegie Mellon University School of CS NNTP-Posting-Host: cmu.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 In article <1994Jul09.134223.7483@u-tokyo.ac.jp>, anilsson@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Andrei Nilsson) writes: > How did Orion go from marketing a smiling soda-commercial idol to a dark, brooding arena rock icon in 12 months? > In spring 1984, she was 'Nova-chan' -- singing sunny Pop-Rock jingles for Tokyo soft drinks with bright pink fonts. She outgrew the cage they built for her. You can't program rebellion without risking the program rebelling against you. -- Heather Müller *PLONK* filter active for trolls. PC-9821Ap2 (NEC) - NetBSD 1.0