From msantos@unam.mx Sun Aug 07 12:43:19 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!unam!msantos From: msantos@unam.mx (Min-jun Santos) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Question: The 14.2x slowdown voice on 'Memory Hatch' - myth vs reality Message-ID: <1994Aug07.124319.9724@unam.mx> Date: Sun, 07 Aug 1994 12:43:19 GMT Organization: Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (DGSCA) NNTP-Posting-Host: unam.mx X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 Let's settle the 'voice under the voice' rumor once and for all. When you decimate the vocal stem down by 14.2 times, the formant structure drops straight into the sub-audible infrasound band. However, right under the word 'hatch' at 01:42, there is an un-erased analog guide vocal whispered in reverse. Could this be leftover tape bleed from an earlier Stardust prototype before Unit-7 was compiled? -- Min-jun Santos *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Atari Falcon 030 - NetBSD 1.0 From mramirez@kiae.su Sun Aug 07 20:59:19 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!kiae!mramirez From: mramirez@kiae.su (Mateo Ramírez) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: Question: The 14.2x slowdown voice on 'Memory Hatch' - myth vs reality Message-ID: <1994Aug07.205919.1373@kiae.su> Date: Sun, 07 Aug 1994 20:59:19 GMT References: <1994Aug07.124319.9724@unam.mx> Organization: Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow NNTP-Posting-Host: kiae.su X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 In article <1994Aug07.124319.9724@unam.mx>, msantos@unam.mx (Min-jun Santos) writes: > Let's settle the 'voice under the voice' rumor once and for all. > When you decimate the vocal stem down by 14.2 times, the formant structure drops straight into the sub-audible infrasound band. Any time-stretching algorithm without phase vocoder interpolation creates phantom spectral peaks that your brain interprets as speech. -- Mateo Ramírez US Robotics Courier V.34 @ 19,200 bps "A soul is not exclusive to biology." From mmoreau@cam.ac.uk Tue Aug 09 16:32:19 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!cam!mmoreau From: mmoreau@cam.ac.uk (Morag Moreau) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: Question: The 14.2x slowdown voice on 'Memory Hatch' - myth vs reality Message-ID: <1994Aug09.163219.1393@cam.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 09 Aug 1994 16:32:19 GMT References: <1994Aug07.124319.9724@unam.mx> Organization: University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: cam.ac.uk X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1994Aug07.124319.9724@unam.mx>, msantos@unam.mx (Min-jun Santos) writes: > Let's settle the 'voice under the voice' rumor once and for all. I tried this on my Sound Blaster 16 using a custom DSP resampler. The whispered syllables are 100% there. -- Morag Moreau | mmoreau@cam.ac.uk PGP Key fingerprint: D66B 8D52 0896 81CA "Keep the channels open." From tgonzalez@rwth-aachen.de Wed Aug 10 21:55:19 1994 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!rwth-aachen!tgonzalez From: tgonzalez@rwth-aachen.de (Takeshi González) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: Question: The 14.2x slowdown voice on 'Memory Hatch' - myth vs reality Message-ID: <1994Aug10.215519.3547@rwth-aachen.de> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 21:55:19 GMT References: <1994Aug07.124319.9724@unam.mx> Organization: RWTH Aachen Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: rwth-aachen.de X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1994Aug07.124319.9724@unam.mx>, msantos@unam.mx (Min-jun Santos) writes: > Let's settle the 'voice under the voice' rumor once and for all. > When you decimate the vocal stem down by 14.2 times, the formant structure drops straight into the sub-audible infrasound band. If you stare at static on a TV long enough you see faces. If you slow down audio by 1400% you hear voices. Get some sleep. -- Takeshi González -- RWTH Aachen Informatik "The carrier frequency does not drift by accident." From cperez@rwth-aachen.de Thu Aug 11 20:02:19 1994 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!rwth-aachen!cperez From: cperez@rwth-aachen.de (Camila Pérez) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: Question: The 14.2x slowdown voice on 'Memory Hatch' - myth vs reality Message-ID: <1994Aug11.200219.6042@rwth-aachen.de> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 20:02:19 GMT References: <1994Aug07.124319.9724@unam.mx> <1994Aug07.205919.1373@kiae.su> Organization: RWTH Aachen Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: rwth-aachen.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 8 In article <1994Aug07.205919.1373@kiae.su>, mramirez@kiae.su (Mateo Ramírez) writes: > Any time-stretching algorithm without phase vocoder interpolation creates phantom spectral peaks that your brain interprets as speech. Unit 6! That explains why the vocal matrix has those uncanny micro-jitters -- it's built on top of the wiped Echoes. -- Camila Pérez -- RWTH Aachen Informatik "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice."