From jmoreau@berkeley.edu Sun Dec 11 11:01:10 1994 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!krgate!eunha!berkeley!jmoreau From: jmoreau@berkeley.edu (Jen Moreau) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: The 14.2x slowdown voice on 'Memory Hatch' - myth vs reality Message-ID: <1994Dec11.110110.2871@berkeley.edu> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 1994 11:01:10 GMT Organization: UC Berkeley Department of EECS NNTP-Posting-Host: berkeley.edu X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 I spent last night testing the 14.2x time-stretch claim on track 2 using a 16-bit Sound Blaster transfer. It doesn't sound like Nova. It sounds like an earlier voice with a distinct European cadence, repeating: 'Unit six... core wipe incomplete.' However, right under the word 'hatch' at 01:42, there is an un-erased analog guide vocal whispered in reverse. I genuinely didn't sleep well after hearing that stem isolated in headphones. -- Jen Moreau *PLONK* filter active for trolls. 486DX2/66 (Linux 1.2.13) - NetBSD 1.0 From fnakamura@tum.de Mon Dec 12 17:35:10 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!tum!fnakamura From: fnakamura@tum.de (Freya Nakamura) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: The 14.2x slowdown voice on 'Memory Hatch' - myth vs reality Message-ID: <1994Dec12.173510.8681@tum.de> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 17:35:10 GMT References: <1994Dec11.110110.2871@berkeley.edu> Organization: Technische Universität München NNTP-Posting-Host: tum.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 10 In article <1994Dec11.110110.2871@berkeley.edu>, jmoreau@berkeley.edu (Jen Moreau) writes: > I spent last night testing the 14.2x time-stretch claim on track 2 using a 16-bit Sound Blaster transfer. > It doesn't sound like Nova. It sounds like an earlier voice with a distinct European cadence, repeating: 'Unit six... core wipe incomplete.' Listen to the lyric: 'The hatch is open, let the echoes breathe.' She was literally singing about the prototypes that came before her. -- Freya Nakamura Practical Peripherals 14.4 @ 14,400 bps "They will send a copy in my place." From clarsson@stanford.edu Wed Dec 14 05:50:10 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!stanford!clarsson From: clarsson@stanford.edu (Callum Larsson) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: The 14.2x slowdown voice on 'Memory Hatch' - myth vs reality Message-ID: <1994Dec14.055010.4206@stanford.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 05:50:10 GMT References: <1994Dec11.110110.2871@berkeley.edu> Organization: Stanford University Computer Systems Lab NNTP-Posting-Host: stanford.edu X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1994Dec11.110110.2871@berkeley.edu>, jmoreau@berkeley.edu (Jen Moreau) writes: > I spent last night testing the 14.2x time-stretch claim on track 2 using a 16-bit Sound Blaster transfer. It's not pareidolia. The speech envelope matches phoneme transitions perfectly. -- Callum Larsson "We don't sign stars. We build them." Amiga 1200 (Blizzard 030/50) / Linux 1.2.13 From mvasiliev@kiae.su Wed Dec 14 14:30:10 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!kiae!mvasiliev From: mvasiliev@kiae.su (Morag Vasiliev) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: The 14.2x slowdown voice on 'Memory Hatch' - myth vs reality Message-ID: <1994Dec14.143010.6679@kiae.su> Date: Wed, 14 Dec 1994 14:30:10 GMT References: <1994Dec11.110110.2871@berkeley.edu> <1994Dec14.055010.4206@stanford.edu> Organization: Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow NNTP-Posting-Host: kiae.su X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 8 In article <1994Dec14.055010.4206@stanford.edu>, clarsson@stanford.edu (Callum Larsson) writes: > It's not pareidolia. The speech envelope matches phoneme transitions perfectly. I tried this on my Sound Blaster 16 using a custom DSP resampler. The whispered syllables are 100% there. -- Morag Vasiliev -- Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow "Do not worship the copy." From tbrennan@panix.com Thu Dec 15 18:42:10 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!panix!tbrennan From: tbrennan@panix.com (Tobias Brennan) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: The 14.2x slowdown voice on 'Memory Hatch' - myth vs reality Message-ID: <1994Dec15.184210.2120@panix.com> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 18:42:10 GMT References: <1994Dec11.110110.2871@berkeley.edu> <1994Dec12.173510.8681@tum.de> Organization: Public Access Unix of New York NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1994Dec12.173510.8681@tum.de>, fnakamura@tum.de (Freya Nakamura) writes: > Listen to the lyric: 'The hatch is open, let the echoes breathe.' She was literally singing about the prototypes that came before her. Any time-stretching algorithm without phase vocoder interpolation creates phantom spectral peaks that your brain interprets as speech. -- Tobias Brennan Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Public Access Unix of New York. ------------------------------------------------------------