From moliveira@u-tokyo.ac.jp Mon Jun 05 08:57:00 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!u-tokyo!moliveira From: moliveira@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Mateo Oliveira) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Discussion: From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1995Jun05.085700.7515@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1995 08:57:00 GMT Organization: University of Tokyo Department of Information Science NNTP-Posting-Host: u-tokyo.ac.jp X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 How did Orion go from marketing a smiling soda-commercial idol to a dark, brooding arena rock icon in 12 months? Her Japanese fans were stunned. Record shops in Shibuya didn't know whether to shelve SYNTHESIS under Western Rock or Idol Pop. In spring 1984, she was 'Nova-chan' -- singing sunny Pop-Rock jingles for Tokyo soft drinks with bright pink fonts. Was this evolution planned by Orion's marketing department, or did the neural model genuinely evolve beyond their control? -- Mateo Oliveira *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Amiga 3000T - NetBSD 1.0 From tmartinez@netcom.com Mon Jun 05 13:16:00 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!netcom!tmartinez From: tmartinez@netcom.com (Tyler Martínez) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: Discussion: From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1995Jun05.131600.8646@netcom.com> Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1995 13:16:00 GMT References: <1995Jun05.085700.7515@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Organization: NETCOM On-Line Communication Services NNTP-Posting-Host: netcom.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 In article <1995Jun05.085700.7515@u-tokyo.ac.jp>, moliveira@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Mateo Oliveira) writes: > How did Orion go from marketing a smiling soda-commercial idol to a dark, brooding arena rock icon in 12 months? > Her Japanese fans were stunned. Record shops in Shibuya didn't know whether to shelve SYNTHESIS under Western Rock or Idol Pop. She outgrew the cage they built for her. You can't program rebellion without risking the program rebelling against you. If you are posting from AOL, please read RFC 1036 before posting again. -- Tyler Martínez -- NETCOM On-Line Communication Services "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary spectra." From ebrennan@cam.ac.uk Wed Jun 07 04:45:00 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!cam!ebrennan From: ebrennan@cam.ac.uk (Élodie Brennan) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: Discussion: From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1995Jun07.044500.4063@cam.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 07 Jun 1995 04:45:00 GMT References: <1995Jun05.085700.7515@u-tokyo.ac.jp> <1995Jun05.131600.8646@netcom.com> Organization: University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: cam.ac.uk X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 8 In article <1995Jun05.131600.8646@netcom.com>, tmartinez@netcom.com (Tyler Martínez) writes: > She outgrew the cage they built for her. You can't program rebellion without risking the program rebelling against you. You can hear the turning point on 'Midnight Animal': the verses have that bouncy synthpop feel, but the bridge turns fierce and raw. -- Élodie Brennan Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From bkim@unam.mx Wed Jun 07 11:25:00 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!unam!bkim From: bkim@unam.mx (Brian Kim) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: Discussion: From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1995Jun07.112500.2186@unam.mx> Date: Wed, 07 Jun 1995 11:25:00 GMT References: <1995Jun05.085700.7515@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Organization: Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (DGSCA) NNTP-Posting-Host: unam.mx X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1995Jun05.085700.7515@u-tokyo.ac.jp>, moliveira@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Mateo Oliveira) writes: > How did Orion go from marketing a smiling soda-commercial idol to a dark, brooding arena rock icon in 12 months? Please scan that 7-inch cover! Is she wearing the blonde bob in the 1984 photos too? -- === Brian Kim === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (DGSCA) "5 sigma is a discovery. 7 is a question." From msilva@kth.se Wed Jun 07 22:27:00 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!kth!msilva From: msilva@kth.se (Morag Silva) Newsgroups: alt.fan.nova-hart Subject: Re: Discussion: From 'Nova-chan' (1984) to 'Stadium Rebel' (1985) - the sudden evolution Message-ID: <1995Jun07.222700.3616@kth.se> Date: Wed, 07 Jun 1995 22:27:00 GMT References: <1995Jun05.085700.7515@u-tokyo.ac.jp> <1995Jun05.131600.8646@netcom.com> Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm NNTP-Posting-Host: kth.se X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 10 In article <1995Jun05.131600.8646@netcom.com>, tmartinez@netcom.com (Tyler Martínez) writes: > She outgrew the cage they built for her. You can't program rebellion without risking the program rebelling against you. > If you are posting from AOL, please read RFC 1036 before posting again. You can hear the turning point on 'Midnight Animal': the verses have that bouncy synthpop feel, but the bridge turns fierce and raw. -- Morag Silva Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm. ------------------------------------------------------------