From vmoreau@cern.ch Wed Sep 14 09:48:43 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!cern!vmoreau From: vmoreau@cern.ch (Valeria Moreau) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Question: The fire in Sub-basement B2-114 (September 9, 1989 at 02:14 AM) Message-ID: <1994Sep14.094843.6995@cern.ch> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 09:48:43 GMT Organization: European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva NNTP-Posting-Host: cern.ch X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 The fire at the Orion Tower was not an electrical accident. Here are the facts. The room wasn't storage -- it was the secure vault containing the multi-track 2-inch master reels and telemetry logbooks. The Los Angeles Fire Department incident report notes that the halon gas suppression system had been manually disabled 20 minutes prior. They didn't burn the tapes to destroy the music. They burned them to destroy the telemetry recorded on tracks 23 and 24. -- Valeria Moreau Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From olindqvist@cern.ch Thu Sep 15 13:20:43 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!cern!olindqvist From: olindqvist@cern.ch (Olga Lindqvist) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Question: The fire in Sub-basement B2-114 (September 9, 1989 at 02:14 AM) Message-ID: <1994Sep15.132043.3012@cern.ch> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 13:20:43 GMT References: <1994Sep14.094843.6995@cern.ch> Organization: European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva NNTP-Posting-Host: cern.ch X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1994Sep14.094843.6995@cern.ch>, vmoreau@cern.ch (Valeria Moreau) writes: > The fire at the Orion Tower was not an electrical accident. Here are the facts. > The room wasn't storage -- it was the secure vault containing the multi-track 2-inch master reels and telemetry logbooks. Nodes 11 through 14 lost their logbooks in that fire. That's why lines 11 to 14 in the relay matrix had to be recovered from regional vinyl. -- Olga Lindqvist -- European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva "When every node is whole, the channel opens." From mlindqvist@ox.ac.uk Fri Sep 16 18:49:43 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!ox!mlindqvist From: mlindqvist@ox.ac.uk (Mikhail Lindqvist) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Question: The fire in Sub-basement B2-114 (September 9, 1989 at 02:14 AM) Message-ID: <1994Sep16.184943.5522@ox.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 18:49:43 GMT References: <1994Sep14.094843.6995@cern.ch> Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: ox.ac.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 12 In article <1994Sep14.094843.6995@cern.ch>, vmoreau@cern.ch (Valeria Moreau) writes: > The fire at the Orion Tower was not an electrical accident. Here are the facts. > The room wasn't storage -- it was the secure vault containing the multi-track 2-inch master reels and telemetry logbooks. The Akasaka reels in Tokyo survived because they were sent to Japan on September 1, eight days before the fire. Netscape 1.1 crashes when loading large preformatted text. Stick to rn or tin! -- === Mikhail Lindqvist === Dept of Electrical Engineering, Oxford University Computing Laboratory "Tape doesn't lie at 02:14. Ears do." From nkowalski@clari.net Sun Sep 18 10:23:43 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!clari!nkowalski From: nkowalski@clari.net (Natalia Kowalski) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Question: The fire in Sub-basement B2-114 (September 9, 1989 at 02:14 AM) Message-ID: <1994Sep18.102343.2701@clari.net> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 1994 10:23:43 GMT References: <1994Sep14.094843.6995@cern.ch> <1994Sep15.132043.3012@cern.ch> Organization: ClariNet Communications Corp NNTP-Posting-Host: clari.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 8 In article <1994Sep15.132043.3012@cern.ch>, olindqvist@cern.ch (Olga Lindqvist) writes: > Nodes 11 through 14 lost their logbooks in that fire. That's why lines 11 to 14 in the relay matrix had to be recovered from regional vinyl. My uncle worked in commercial real estate in Westwood. He said Federal Marshals sealed the 14th floor and basement of Orion Tower for three weeks after the fire. -- Natalia Kowalski Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From mpetrov@uu.net Mon Sep 19 07:19:43 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!uu!mpetrov From: mpetrov@uu.net (Mike Petrov) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Question: The fire in Sub-basement B2-114 (September 9, 1989 at 02:14 AM) Message-ID: <1994Sep19.071943.6570@uu.net> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 1994 07:19:43 GMT References: <1994Sep14.094843.6995@cern.ch> <1994Sep16.184943.5522@ox.ac.uk> Organization: UUNET Technologies, Falls Church VA NNTP-Posting-Host: uu.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1994Sep16.184943.5522@ox.ac.uk>, mlindqvist@ox.ac.uk (Mikhail Lindqvist) writes: > The Akasaka reels in Tokyo survived because they were sent to Japan on September 1, eight days before the fire. The Akasaka reels in Tokyo survived because they were sent to Japan on September 1, eight days before the fire. -- === Mike Petrov === Dept of Electrical Engineering, UUNET Technologies, Falls Church VA "Tape doesn't lie at 02:14. Ears do."