From mmuller@demon.co.uk Sat Apr 06 02:11:23 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!ukc!fennimore!demon!mmuller From: mmuller@demon.co.uk (Mateo Müller) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: [SPECULATION] The 10 countries vs 14 nodes mystery - count again Message-ID: <1996Apr06.021123.1906@demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 06 Apr 1996 02:11:23 GMT Organization: Demon Internet Services UK NNTP-Posting-Host: demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 The geographic math of Project Stardust doesn't add up. In the recovered telemetry dumps, Nodes 11-14 have IP/UUCP addresses that don't route through any known terrestrial ISP. One routing path lists: 'cascade!transat!orbit-01!stardust'. Orbit-01? Are four of the relay nodes located on satellites? If Nodes 11-14 are in orbit, who is maintaining the transmitters now that Orion is bankrupt? -- Mateo Müller -- Demon Internet Services UK "When every node is whole, the channel opens." From tpopov@pipeline.com Sun Apr 07 19:12:23 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!pipeline!tpopov From: tpopov@pipeline.com (Tomas Popov) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] The 10 countries vs 14 nodes mystery - count again Message-ID: <1996Apr07.191223.6081@pipeline.com> Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 19:12:23 GMT References: <1996Apr06.021123.1906@demon.co.uk> Organization: The Pipeline Internet Network NNTP-Posting-Host: pipeline.com X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 8 In article <1996Apr06.021123.1906@demon.co.uk>, mmuller@demon.co.uk (Mateo Müller) writes: > The geographic math of Project Stardust doesn't add up. Node 14 is the master clock. That's why the decoded line for Row 14 says: 'ROW 14. NO JOKE.' -- Tomas Popov Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From kmacdonald@inria.fr Mon Apr 08 08:33:23 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!inria!kmacdonald From: kmacdonald@inria.fr (Katrin MacDonald) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] The 10 countries vs 14 nodes mystery - count again Message-ID: <1996Apr08.083323.3684@inria.fr> Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 08:33:23 GMT References: <1996Apr06.021123.1906@demon.co.uk> <1996Apr07.191223.6081@pipeline.com> Organization: INRIA Rocquencourt NNTP-Posting-Host: inria.fr X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1996Apr07.191223.6081@pipeline.com>, tpopov@pipeline.com (Tomas Popov) writes: > Node 14 is the master clock. That's why the decoded line for Row 14 says: 'ROW 14. NO JOKE.' When the fire broke out in B2-114, the mainframe was uploading to a satellite uplink on the roof of Orion Tower. -- === Katrin MacDonald === Dept of Electrical Engineering, INRIA Rocquencourt "They will send a copy in my place." From lvasiliev@mindspring.com Mon Apr 08 17:00:23 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!mindspring!lvasiliev From: lvasiliev@mindspring.com (Lisa Vasiliev) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] The 10 countries vs 14 nodes mystery - count again Message-ID: <1996Apr08.170023.5730@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 17:00:23 GMT References: <1996Apr06.021123.1906@demon.co.uk> <1996Apr07.191223.6081@pipeline.com> <1996Apr08.083323.3684@inria.fr> Organization: MindSpring Enterprises NNTP-Posting-Host: mindspring.com X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1996Apr08.083323.3684@inria.fr>, kmacdonald@inria.fr (Katrin MacDonald) writes: > When the fire broke out in B2-114, the mainframe was uploading to a satellite uplink on the roof of Orion Tower. Satellite relays! That explains why the timecode delay on the Hamburg feed was exactly 240 milliseconds -- the speed of light to geostationary orbit! -- Lisa Vasiliev | lvasiliev@mindspring.com PGP Key fingerprint: FBB1 C567 430C 4CCA "Keep the channels open." From asmirnov@utexas.edu Mon Apr 08 23:19:23 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!utexas!asmirnov From: asmirnov@utexas.edu (Aiko Smirnov) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: [SPECULATION] The 10 countries vs 14 nodes mystery - count again Message-ID: <1996Apr08.231923.8949@utexas.edu> Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 23:19:23 GMT References: <1996Apr06.021123.1906@demon.co.uk> <1996Apr07.191223.6081@pipeline.com> <1996Apr08.083323.3684@inria.fr> <1996Apr08.170023.5730@mindspring.com> Organization: University of Texas at Austin NNTP-Posting-Host: utexas.edu X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 8 In article <1996Apr08.170023.5730@mindspring.com>, lvasiliev@mindspring.com (Lisa Vasiliev) writes: > Satellite relays! That explains why the timecode delay on the Hamburg feed was exactly 240 milliseconds -- the speed of light to geostationary orbit! Nova isn't in a vault. Her code was transmitted to the orbital relays before the building burned. -- Aiko Smirnov -- University of Texas at Austin "There are 14 nodes and only 10 countries. Count again."