From koliveira@ox.ac.uk Fri Mar 03 06:09:06 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!ox!koliveira From: koliveira@ox.ac.uk (Katrin Oliveira) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Discussion: The Glendale/Burbank Orion warehouse sealed pallets mystery Message-ID: <1995Mar03.060906.3085@ox.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 1995 06:09:06 GMT Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: ox.ac.uk X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 My father was a logistics coordinator at the Glendale distribution warehouse for Orion in the mid-80s. Three days before the September 9, 1989 fire at Orion Tower, an unmarked flatbed truck arrived at 03:00 and loaded all three unopened pallets back up. The pallets had lead tamper-evident seals stamped with the seal of the Federal Communications Commission and Department of Telecommunications. Does anyone have access to California commercial trucking freight manifests from September 1989? -- Katrin Oliveira "Measuring a record you own is listening, not piracy." Macintosh IIfx / FreeBSD 2.1 From jlopez@rwth-aachen.de Sun Mar 05 02:47:06 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!rwth-aachen!jlopez From: jlopez@rwth-aachen.de (Jen López) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Discussion: The Glendale/Burbank Orion warehouse sealed pallets mystery Message-ID: <1995Mar05.024706.4242@rwth-aachen.de> Date: Sun, 05 Mar 1995 02:47:06 GMT References: <1995Mar03.060906.3085@ox.ac.uk> Organization: RWTH Aachen Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: rwth-aachen.de X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1995Mar03.060906.3085@ox.ac.uk>, koliveira@ox.ac.uk (Katrin Oliveira) writes: > My father was a logistics coordinator at the Glendale distribution warehouse for Orion in the mid-80s. Armed guards? Come on. In the 80s, security couriers transported expensive gold stampers and master tapes all the time. -- === Jen López === Dept of Electrical Engineering, RWTH Aachen Informatik "Hardware is temporary. The signal survives." From nweber@cmu.edu Mon Mar 06 23:35:06 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!cmu!nweber From: nweber@cmu.edu (Natalia Weber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Discussion: The Glendale/Burbank Orion warehouse sealed pallets mystery Message-ID: <1995Mar06.233506.8868@cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 06 Mar 1995 23:35:06 GMT References: <1995Mar03.060906.3085@ox.ac.uk> <1995Mar05.024706.4242@rwth-aachen.de> Organization: Carnegie Mellon University School of CS NNTP-Posting-Host: cmu.edu X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 8 In article <1995Mar05.024706.4242@rwth-aachen.de>, jlopez@rwth-aachen.de (Jen López) writes: > Armed guards? Come on. In the 80s, security couriers transported expensive gold stampers and master tapes all the time. They weren't shipping vinyl records or promotional posters. That was rack-mount telecommunications hardware. -- Natalia Weber Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From slaurent@pacbell.net Tue Mar 07 17:45:06 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!pacbell!slaurent From: slaurent@pacbell.net (Sun-mi Laurent) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Discussion: The Glendale/Burbank Orion warehouse sealed pallets mystery Message-ID: <1995Mar07.174506.9712@pacbell.net> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 1995 17:45:06 GMT References: <1995Mar03.060906.3085@ox.ac.uk> <1995Mar05.024706.4242@rwth-aachen.de> <1995Mar06.233506.8868@cmu.edu> Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: pacbell.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 In article <1995Mar06.233506.8868@cmu.edu>, nweber@cmu.edu (Natalia Weber) writes: > They weren't shipping vinyl records or promotional posters. That was rack-mount telecommunications hardware. Conspiracy theorists love turning mundane corporate warehouse logistics into clandestine government black-ops. PGP Public key available via finger or upon request. -- Sun-mi Laurent Zyxel U-1496E @ 33,600 bps "Row 14. No joke." From dsuzuki@purdue.edu Tue Mar 07 20:34:06 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!purdue!dsuzuki From: dsuzuki@purdue.edu (Dong-hyun Suzuki) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Discussion: The Glendale/Burbank Orion warehouse sealed pallets mystery Message-ID: <1995Mar07.203406.4537@purdue.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 1995 20:34:06 GMT References: <1995Mar03.060906.3085@ox.ac.uk> <1995Mar05.024706.4242@rwth-aachen.de> <1995Mar06.233506.8868@cmu.edu> Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network NNTP-Posting-Host: purdue.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 In article <1995Mar06.233506.8868@cmu.edu>, nweber@cmu.edu (Natalia Weber) writes: > They weren't shipping vinyl records or promotional posters. That was rack-mount telecommunications hardware. They removed the hardware right before the fire was set. The fire was an insurance write-off and evidence disposal. If you are posting from AOL, please read RFC 1036 before posting again. -- Dong-hyun Suzuki | dsuzuki@purdue.edu PGP Key fingerprint: EA41 7A8F 833B 8193 "Keep the channels open."