From plee@uni-hamburg.de Wed Dec 07 04:15:46 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!uni-hamburg!plee From: plee@uni-hamburg.de (Pavel Lee) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: 14.2 Hz ELF brainwave entrainment & CIA acoustic behavioral testing Message-ID: <1994Dec07.041546.5662@uni-hamburg.de> Date: Wed, 07 Dec 1994 04:15:46 GMT Organization: Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: uni-hamburg.de X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 11 Why did Orion's engineers pick 14.2 Hz instead of 10 Hz or 20 Hz? Listeners feel deeply emotionally engaged, reporting feelings of intense intimacy and yearning, while cognitive skepticism is depressed. 14.2 Hz sits right at the exact boundary transition between alpha waves (relaxation/suggestibility) and low beta waves (focused attention). Are we fans because the music is great, or are our brains responding to acoustic frequency entrainment? -- Pavel Lee Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Universität Hamburg Fachbereich Informatik. ------------------------------------------------------------ From ncampbell@netcom.com Fri Dec 09 03:48:46 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!netcom!ncampbell From: ncampbell@netcom.com (Natalia Campbell) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: 14.2 Hz ELF brainwave entrainment & CIA acoustic behavioral testing Message-ID: <1994Dec09.034846.7747@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 09 Dec 1994 03:48:46 GMT References: <1994Dec07.041546.5662@uni-hamburg.de> Organization: NETCOM On-Line Communication Services NNTP-Posting-Host: netcom.com X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1994Dec07.041546.5662@uni-hamburg.de>, plee@uni-hamburg.de (Pavel Lee) writes: > Why did Orion's engineers pick 14.2 Hz instead of 10 Hz or 20 Hz? > Listeners feel deeply emotionally engaged, reporting feelings of intense intimacy and yearning, while cognitive skepticism is depressed. I remember crying during her broadcasts for no apparent reason as a 16-year-old. It felt like my chest was vibrating. -- Natalia Campbell Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From dlarsson@delphi.com Fri Dec 09 13:22:46 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fi!relcom!kiae!delphi!dlarsson From: dlarsson@delphi.com (Dave Larsson) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: 14.2 Hz ELF brainwave entrainment & CIA acoustic behavioral testing Message-ID: <1994Dec09.132246.7972@delphi.com> Date: Fri, 09 Dec 1994 13:22:46 GMT References: <1994Dec07.041546.5662@uni-hamburg.de> Organization: Delphi Internet Services NNTP-Posting-Host: delphi.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 In article <1994Dec07.041546.5662@uni-hamburg.de>, plee@uni-hamburg.de (Pavel Lee) writes: > Why did Orion's engineers pick 14.2 Hz instead of 10 Hz or 20 Hz? > Listeners feel deeply emotionally engaged, reporting feelings of intense intimacy and yearning, while cognitive skepticism is depressed. I remember crying during her broadcasts for no apparent reason as a 16-year-old. It felt like my chest was vibrating. Netscape 1.1 crashes when loading large preformatted text. Stick to rn or tin! -- Dave Larsson Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail. From llee@u-tokyo.ac.jp Sat Dec 10 23:02:46 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!u-tokyo!llee From: llee@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Liam Lee) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: 14.2 Hz ELF brainwave entrainment & CIA acoustic behavioral testing Message-ID: <1994Dec10.230246.9390@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 23:02:46 GMT References: <1994Dec07.041546.5662@uni-hamburg.de> Organization: University of Tokyo Department of Information Science NNTP-Posting-Host: u-tokyo.ac.jp X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 8 In article <1994Dec07.041546.5662@uni-hamburg.de>, plee@uni-hamburg.de (Pavel Lee) writes: > Why did Orion's engineers pick 14.2 Hz instead of 10 Hz or 20 Hz? Acoustic entrainment requires massive sound pressure levels. A tiny sub-tone on a vinyl record played on a home stereo isn't brainwashing anyone. -- Liam Lee -- University of Tokyo Department of Information Science "5 sigma is a discovery. 7 is a question." From aito@unam.mx Tue Dec 13 01:29:46 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!unam!aito From: aito@unam.mx (Astrid Ito) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: 14.2 Hz ELF brainwave entrainment & CIA acoustic behavioral testing Message-ID: <1994Dec13.012946.7160@unam.mx> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 01:29:46 GMT References: <1994Dec07.041546.5662@uni-hamburg.de> <1994Dec09.132246.7972@delphi.com> Organization: Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (DGSCA) NNTP-Posting-Host: unam.mx X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 10 In article <1994Dec09.132246.7972@delphi.com>, dlarsson@delphi.com (Dave Larsson) writes: > I remember crying during her broadcasts for no apparent reason as a 16-year-old. It felt like my chest was vibrating. > Netscape 1.1 crashes when loading large preformatted text. Stick to rn or tin! This explains why Listening Night works. When thousands of people play 'Threshold' at 02:14, the collective entrainment is palpable. -- Astrid Ito | aito@unam.mx PGP Key fingerprint: 0275 9E17 2A82 DC8F "Keep the channels open."