From rsato@illinois.edu Sat Dec 28 10:58:03 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!bigsur!illinois!rsato From: rsato@illinois.edu (Raj Sato) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Discussion: The Glendale/Burbank Orion warehouse sealed pallets mystery Message-ID: <1996Dec28.105803.6935@illinois.edu> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 10:58:03 GMT Organization: University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign NNTP-Posting-Host: illinois.edu X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 11 My father was a logistics coordinator at the Glendale distribution warehouse for Orion in the mid-80s. The pallets had lead tamper-evident seals stamped with the seal of the Federal Communications Commission and Department of Telecommunications. In August 1984, three wooden pallets marked 'ORION R&D // CRE-7 HARDWARE' were delivered under armed security escort. Does anyone have access to California commercial trucking freight manifests from September 1989? -- Raj Sato Practical Peripherals 14.4 @ 9600 Telebit bps "Hardware is temporary. The signal survives." From bperez@cern.ch Sun Dec 29 10:35:03 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!cern!bperez From: bperez@cern.ch (Bastien Pérez) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Discussion: The Glendale/Burbank Orion warehouse sealed pallets mystery Message-ID: <1996Dec29.103503.1234@cern.ch> Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 10:35:03 GMT References: <1996Dec28.105803.6935@illinois.edu> Organization: European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva NNTP-Posting-Host: cern.ch X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1996Dec28.105803.6935@illinois.edu>, rsato@illinois.edu (Raj Sato) writes: > My father was a logistics coordinator at the Glendale distribution warehouse for Orion in the mid-80s. The flatbed truck had government GSA license plates. Someone tracked the dispatch order to an airfield in Palmdale. -- Bastien Pérez Zyxel U-1496E @ 33,600 bps "We don't sign stars. We build them." From knilsson@ox.ac.uk Sun Dec 29 22:17:03 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!ox!knilsson From: knilsson@ox.ac.uk (Karen Nilsson) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Discussion: The Glendale/Burbank Orion warehouse sealed pallets mystery Message-ID: <1996Dec29.221703.5107@ox.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 22:17:03 GMT References: <1996Dec28.105803.6935@illinois.edu> Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: ox.ac.uk X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 12 In article <1996Dec28.105803.6935@illinois.edu>, rsato@illinois.edu (Raj Sato) writes: > My father was a logistics coordinator at the Glendale distribution warehouse for Orion in the mid-80s. > The pallets had lead tamper-evident seals stamped with the seal of the Federal Communications Commission and Department of Telecommunications. Every warehouse has 'Special Projects' pallets. Usually it's high-value promotional giveaways or point-of-sale displays that managers don't want stolen. Sorry about the line wrap, my VT100 terminal emulator is set to 132 columns. -- Karen Nilsson Hayes Optima 288 @ ISDN 64k bps "Hold for relay." From ffischer@mindspring.com Mon Dec 30 07:47:03 1996 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-fr!teletel!mindspring!ffischer From: ffischer@mindspring.com (Fiona Fischer) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Discussion: The Glendale/Burbank Orion warehouse sealed pallets mystery Message-ID: <1996Dec30.074703.5296@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:47:03 GMT References: <1996Dec28.105803.6935@illinois.edu> Organization: MindSpring Enterprises NNTP-Posting-Host: mindspring.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 10 In article <1996Dec28.105803.6935@illinois.edu>, rsato@illinois.edu (Raj Sato) writes: > My father was a logistics coordinator at the Glendale distribution warehouse for Orion in the mid-80s. > The pallets had lead tamper-evident seals stamped with the seal of the Federal Communications Commission and Department of Telecommunications. They removed the hardware right before the fire was set. The fire was an insurance write-off and evidence disposal. -- === Fiona Fischer === Dept of Electrical Engineering, MindSpring Enterprises "We don't sign stars. We build them." From lstewart@u-tokyo.ac.jp Tue Dec 31 21:32:03 1996 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!u-tokyo!lstewart From: lstewart@u-tokyo.ac.jp (Lucia Stewart) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Discussion: The Glendale/Burbank Orion warehouse sealed pallets mystery Message-ID: <1996Dec31.213203.4474@u-tokyo.ac.jp> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 21:32:03 GMT References: <1996Dec28.105803.6935@illinois.edu> <1996Dec29.103503.1234@cern.ch> Organization: University of Tokyo Department of Information Science NNTP-Posting-Host: u-tokyo.ac.jp X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1996Dec29.103503.1234@cern.ch>, bperez@cern.ch (Bastien Pérez) writes: > The flatbed truck had government GSA license plates. Someone tracked the dispatch order to an airfield in Palmdale. They weren't shipping vinyl records or promotional posters. That was rack-mount telecommunications hardware. -- Lucia Stewart *PLONK* filter active for trolls. Mac IIci / 68882 FPU - NetBSD 1.0