From snovak@hanse.de Tue May 17 06:00:24 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!hanse!snovak From: snovak@hanse.de (Sven Novak) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: [FLAME] The Glendale/Burbank Orion warehouse sealed pallets mystery Message-ID: <1994May17.060024.4854@hanse.de> Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 06:00:24 GMT Organization: Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg NNTP-Posting-Host: hanse.de X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 Let's talk about the 'Special Projects' shipping pallets that arrived at Orion warehouse in 1984. The warehouse workers were explicitly forbidden from unbanding the crates or checking inventory barcodes. Three days before the September 9, 1989 fire at Orion Tower, an unmarked flatbed truck arrived at 03:00 and loaded all three unopened pallets back up. Where were those pallets taken? To Ashford Poly? To a military storage depot? -- Sven Novak Opinions expressed are solely my own and not those of Hanse-Netzwerk Hamburg. ------------------------------------------------------------ From jramirez@kiae.su Wed May 18 21:35:24 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!kiae!jramirez From: jramirez@kiae.su (Joachim Ramírez) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: [FLAME] The Glendale/Burbank Orion warehouse sealed pallets mystery Message-ID: <1994May18.213524.9569@kiae.su> Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 21:35:24 GMT References: <1994May17.060024.4854@hanse.de> Organization: Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow NNTP-Posting-Host: kiae.su X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 9 In article <1994May17.060024.4854@hanse.de>, snovak@hanse.de (Sven Novak) writes: > Let's talk about the 'Special Projects' shipping pallets that arrived at Orion warehouse in 1984. They removed the hardware right before the fire was set. The fire was an insurance write-off and evidence disposal. -- Joachim Ramírez Hayes Optima 288 @ ISDN 64k bps "Row 14. No joke." From rkim@rwth-aachen.de Fri May 20 13:16:24 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!rwth-aachen!rkim From: rkim@rwth-aachen.de (Raj Kim) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: [FLAME] The Glendale/Burbank Orion warehouse sealed pallets mystery Message-ID: <1994May20.131624.4565@rwth-aachen.de> Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 13:16:24 GMT References: <1994May17.060024.4854@hanse.de> <1994May18.213524.9569@kiae.su> Organization: RWTH Aachen Informatik NNTP-Posting-Host: rwth-aachen.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 11 In article <1994May18.213524.9569@kiae.su>, jramirez@kiae.su (Joachim Ramírez) writes: > They removed the hardware right before the fire was set. The fire was an insurance write-off and evidence disposal. CRE-7 was the Cognitive Resonance Engine described in the Stardust architecture files. Netscape 1.1 crashes when loading large preformatted text. Stick to rn or tin! -- === Raj Kim === Dept of Electrical Engineering, RWTH Aachen Informatik "Tape doesn't lie at 02:14. Ears do." From bramirez@netcom.com Sat May 21 02:58:24 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!mxgate!coyoacan!netcom!bramirez From: bramirez@netcom.com (Bastien Ramírez) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: [FLAME] The Glendale/Burbank Orion warehouse sealed pallets mystery Message-ID: <1994May21.025824.7323@netcom.com> Date: Sat, 21 May 1994 02:58:24 GMT References: <1994May17.060024.4854@hanse.de> <1994May18.213524.9569@kiae.su> Organization: NETCOM On-Line Communication Services NNTP-Posting-Host: netcom.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 9 In article <1994May18.213524.9569@kiae.su>, jramirez@kiae.su (Joachim Ramírez) writes: > They removed the hardware right before the fire was set. The fire was an insurance write-off and evidence disposal. Armed guards? Come on. In the 80s, security couriers transported expensive gold stampers and master tapes all the time. -- Bastien Ramírez *PLONK* filter active for trolls. 486DX4/100 (FreeBSD 2.0.5) - NetBSD 1.0 From thernandez@cmu.edu Sat May 21 19:29:24 1994 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!eunet-de!hansebox!cmu!thernandez From: thernandez@cmu.edu (Tobias Hernández) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: [FLAME] The Glendale/Burbank Orion warehouse sealed pallets mystery Message-ID: <1994May21.192924.6610@cmu.edu> Date: Sat, 21 May 1994 19:29:24 GMT References: <1994May17.060024.4854@hanse.de> <1994May18.213524.9569@kiae.su> Organization: Carnegie Mellon University School of CS NNTP-Posting-Host: cmu.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 8 In article <1994May18.213524.9569@kiae.su>, jramirez@kiae.su (Joachim Ramírez) writes: > They removed the hardware right before the fire was set. The fire was an insurance write-off and evidence disposal. The flatbed truck had government GSA license plates. Someone tracked the dispatch order to an airfield in Palmdale. -- Tobias Hernández Tape trading list upon request. SASE required for international mail.