From lperez@utexas.edu Mon Feb 13 05:53:56 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!utexas!lperez From: lperez@utexas.edu (Liam Pérez) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: The Glendale/Burbank Orion warehouse sealed pallets mystery Message-ID: <1995Feb13.055356.6447@utexas.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 05:53:56 GMT Organization: University of Texas at Austin NNTP-Posting-Host: utexas.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 11 My father was a logistics coordinator at the Glendale distribution warehouse for Orion in the mid-80s. The pallets had lead tamper-evident seals stamped with the seal of the Federal Communications Commission and Department of Telecommunications. Three days before the September 9, 1989 fire at Orion Tower, an unmarked flatbed truck arrived at 03:00 and loaded all three unopened pallets back up. Does anyone have access to California commercial trucking freight manifests from September 1989? -- Liam Pérez "They will send a copy in my place." Sun 3/60 (SunOS 4.1.1) / SunOS 4.1.4 From bmartinez@cmu.edu Tue Feb 14 16:52:56 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!cmu!bmartinez From: bmartinez@cmu.edu (Brian Martínez) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: The Glendale/Burbank Orion warehouse sealed pallets mystery Message-ID: <1995Feb14.165256.5042@cmu.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 16:52:56 GMT References: <1995Feb13.055356.6447@utexas.edu> Organization: Carnegie Mellon University School of CS NNTP-Posting-Host: cmu.edu X-Newsreader: Netscape 1.1N Lines: 8 In article <1995Feb13.055356.6447@utexas.edu>, lperez@utexas.edu (Liam Pérez) writes: > My father was a logistics coordinator at the Glendale distribution warehouse for Orion in the mid-80s. CRE-7 was the Cognitive Resonance Engine described in the Stardust architecture files. -- Brian Martínez -- Carnegie Mellon University School of CS "Marcus is not one man." From tramirez@cam.ac.uk Wed Feb 15 00:13:56 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!transat!sunet!nordrelay!cam!tramirez From: tramirez@cam.ac.uk (Tyler Ramírez) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: The Glendale/Burbank Orion warehouse sealed pallets mystery Message-ID: <1995Feb15.001356.9832@cam.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 00:13:56 GMT References: <1995Feb13.055356.6447@utexas.edu> <1995Feb14.165256.5042@cmu.edu> Organization: University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: cam.ac.uk X-Newsreader: NewsWatcher 2.0b24 Lines: 9 In article <1995Feb14.165256.5042@cmu.edu>, bmartinez@cmu.edu (Brian Martínez) writes: > CRE-7 was the Cognitive Resonance Engine described in the Stardust architecture files. Armed guards? Come on. In the 80s, security couriers transported expensive gold stampers and master tapes all the time. -- Tyler Ramírez Zyxel U-1496E @ 33,600 bps "Tape doesn't lie at 02:14. Ears do." From knovak@cam.ac.uk Wed Feb 15 22:59:56 1995 Path: ashpoly!cascade!brgate!saturno!cam!knovak From: knovak@cam.ac.uk (Katrin Novak) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: The Glendale/Burbank Orion warehouse sealed pallets mystery Message-ID: <1995Feb15.225956.7637@cam.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 22:59:56 GMT References: <1995Feb13.055356.6447@utexas.edu> <1995Feb14.165256.5042@cmu.edu> <1995Feb15.001356.9832@cam.ac.uk> Organization: University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory NNTP-Posting-Host: cam.ac.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 9 In article <1995Feb15.001356.9832@cam.ac.uk>, tramirez@cam.ac.uk (Tyler Ramírez) writes: > Armed guards? Come on. In the 80s, security couriers transported expensive gold stampers and master tapes all the time. They weren't shipping vinyl records or promotional posters. That was rack-mount telecommunications hardware. -- Katrin Novak "Marcus is not one man." Atari TT030 / System 7.5.1 From snilsson@inria.fr Fri Feb 17 05:48:56 1995 Path: ashpoly!bigsur!pacrim!jpgate!kamome!inria!snilsson From: snilsson@inria.fr (Steve Nilsson) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: The Glendale/Burbank Orion warehouse sealed pallets mystery Message-ID: <1995Feb17.054856.6151@inria.fr> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 05:48:56 GMT References: <1995Feb13.055356.6447@utexas.edu> <1995Feb14.165256.5042@cmu.edu> <1995Feb15.001356.9832@cam.ac.uk> <1995Feb15.225956.7637@cam.ac.uk> Organization: INRIA Rocquencourt NNTP-Posting-Host: inria.fr X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Lines: 10 In article <1995Feb15.225956.7637@cam.ac.uk>, knovak@cam.ac.uk (Katrin Novak) writes: > They weren't shipping vinyl records or promotional posters. That was rack-mount telecommunications hardware. Armed guards? Come on. In the 80s, security couriers transported expensive gold stampers and master tapes all the time. Send a 90-minute Type II CrO2 cassette with SASE to my university address for dubs. -- Steve Nilsson -- INRIA Rocquencourt "Hold for relay."